I've never been to WSIR, so I can't speak from experience, but from what I can tell it is a high speed corner that would benefit from aero. Just because a car has aero doesn't mean you would drive it any differently. If set up correctly, it will still handle like a car without aero except the traction limits will be higher at speed. From what it seems, a NA S2k with aero cannot reach it's traction limit in T2 at WSIR, so no correction is needed just wot. Lets take that same s2k, but with 500 hp. That car will have no problem reaching the limit (with aero) and will thus be driven accordingly. Smooth(er) is still faster. You say you are taking T2 at wot, but you are having to saw at the wheel. That sawing is scrubbing off speed, so it would be like backing off throttle slightly and not having to saw. The smaller you keep your corrections, the less speed you scrub off. When you saw at a wheel, you are essentially catching a drift, and we all know how fast drifting is around a track

This is not to say a smooth driver is fast and vice versa. They could just be slow, but smooth. Similarly, a fast driver is not necessarily smooth, but I bet he could be faster if he was smooth - slow hands for speed, fast hands only to catch a slide or if you want to look cool on camera.

Even in low traction environments such as rally, the fastest drivers are the smoothest. Just look at Sebastian Loeb.

All this being said, I am not the fastest or the smoothest driver out there (even though I like to think so)

 

So sawing at the wheel like this isn't fast?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=a5TcuMGAoVE

 

slow...



Hence my "smooth(er)" comment. He is actually very smooth considering the narrow streets and jumps

 

I know that feeling and catch myself doing it too. Sawing a bit can give you feedback about whether or not either end of the car can take more. But I think it would obviously be fastest to just know already whether the car is at the limit and only steer as necessary to keep it there, once that level of skill is attained. Random sawing may give you more data to work with but it also upsets the car. It's a crutch I will need to grow out of to get faster.

 

To add to this, here's an interesting tidbit. The guys with larger wings will go through the turn with positive input, WOT. The guys with a CR wing or no wing ultimately end up going though in a state of what we call zero-counter. We aren't turning the car with the front wheels, but we're not countersteering either. Effectively the rear is both accelerating the car and turning it.

Here's an example from s2k challenge @ https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/902...9-wsir-results

First and third for this event were separated by 0.099 seconds...

1:36.892 - Ddess
1:36.965 - psychoazn
1:36.991 - takchi

Both takchi and I are driving CR with non-staggered wheels/tires (RS-3), and an exhaust (no other performance mods). We are both taking the turn in that "zero-counter" state, while Ddess is running a AP1 with GTC-200, and non-staggered NT01.

The only way to get through T2 without sawing and in that zero-counter state is to either lift, or get more rear wing. Alignment wouldn't solve it; takchi is running -2.8 in the rear, while I had -3.3, and I apparently was mode sideways than he was.


I do agree that a smooth input SHOULD be faster, but I find myself sawing more and more as I improve. One thing to note is that sawing has a larger impact with stiffer springs and damping, and all three of the above mentioned drivers are running stock suspensions. I rarely find myself sawing when I drive other s2ks with coilovers except to correct.