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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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My car felt a bit weird at Roeblind road last time I was there. Roebling is all sweepers and I felt it had steady state understeer/slip at the front.. it would wander wide on the power out of corners but it'd still oversteer pretty easy.

I had my alignment checked and I think they got the front and rear toe-in confused
I had zero toe in the rear and -0.10 total toe-in at the front.

Would this cause it to understeer like that?

We pulled down on the front of the car to see what it did on compression and I'd say with me in the car, it'd probably allready be toe'd in about -0.20 total at the front
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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Holy crap. That's a mistake.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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It could be pushy on entry but not midcorner with a touch of toe in. .1 toe in is around 1/32" per side.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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with 0 toe in the rear ur should be very lose
i dont think the .1 toe in front can over power 0 toe on the rear

the reason why ur car is pushing during sweeper style corner is becuz it doesnt have enough front mechanical grip i.e. running non-stagger might fix ur problem
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNick,Apr 21 2010, 12:21 PM
It could be pushy on entry but not midcorner with a touch of toe in. .1 toe in is around 1/32" per side.
hey where do you learn this stuff? everytime I change something on my car I seem to make it worse and I can't figure out why!

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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 07:23 AM
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I've messed up a bunch of stuff over the years
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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What else do you have on your car again?

sway springs shocks, shock settings etc.

If you are non staggered zeroing the toe up front helps fix the twitchiness.

If you don't have more spring up front you can dial out the midcorner oversteer with more rear camber and some rear toe in.
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scareyourpassenger,Apr 22 2010, 07:42 AM
If you don't have more spring up front you can dial out the midcorner oversteer with more rear camber and some rear toe in.
That makes sense I think I've been running the saner on medium to compensate for the twitchy rear and that must be whats causing a bit of understeer

The wheels are 17x9's with 255 RE-11's all round, OEM shocks with springs that are slightly stiffer at the rear.

I'm gonna try -3.0 rear camber, -2.2(max) front camber, -0.20 total rear toe, 0 front toe and back down the saner down to soft.
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