Falken 615's
Originally Posted by RSXLNT,Feb 15 2007, 09:19 AM
Thank you for the comments. I'm starting to feel very nervous about this purchase. The feedback on the Tire and Wheel forum has been largely positive, though the people who post there may not be tracking the car. What did you hate about them?
I just figured it made sense, given the price - you get what you pay for!
BUT - a lot of guys love the Azenis- this is just my experience.
Originally Posted by alejo,Feb 15 2007, 09:38 AM
There was just no feedback - the space in time between full grip and losing it was very short and non-descript. I love the RE-050's because they made lots of noise and sent you lots of signals when they were about to go.
I just figured it made sense, given the price - you get what you pay for!
BUT - a lot of guys love the Azenis- this is just my experience.
I just figured it made sense, given the price - you get what you pay for!
BUT - a lot of guys love the Azenis- this is just my experience.
Honestly r-comps to me grip and go too...it's all relative to how much seat time you've got with the shoes...no?
Originally Posted by jasonjm,Feb 15 2007, 10:03 AM
Honestly r-comps to me grip and go too...it's all relative to how much seat time you've got with the shoes...no?
actually sotck is 215/245 compare to ur 215/255 settings now
it's gonna have more understeer
i recommand to have all 4 36psi COLD in the 1st session
measure all 4 42psi HOT in 2nd session
then depending on how u used the front tires, re-adjust
after re-adjust front, then go higher in the rear if understeer, go lower if oversteer
this is just a general test see if u find it work well for ur whole track day
it's gonna have more understeer
i recommand to have all 4 36psi COLD in the 1st session
measure all 4 42psi HOT in 2nd session
then depending on how u used the front tires, re-adjust
after re-adjust front, then go higher in the rear if understeer, go lower if oversteer
this is just a general test see if u find it work well for ur whole track day
ive got RT615 255/40/17s on the rear of my car right now, and with the rears set at 36psi the handling of the car was extremely screwy. The ride was super harsh and I was all over the place. It wasn't until I dropped the rear to the factory pressure (32psi) that the handling and ride quality was restored and I felt comfortable driving aggressively again.
Ive never driven a car where minute changes in tire pressure affected handling so much. I found that anything over 1-2psi of the recommended tire pressures in the manual severely disrupts the handling of the car.
that is waaaaay off unfortunately. The problems is that not all tires of the same "size" share the same tread width, rendering your simplified math almost useless. Did you totally ignore the fact that the original poster did computations using the ACTUAL tread width of both the RE050s and the RT615s, and the difference in stagger was pretty significant?
Ive never driven a car where minute changes in tire pressure affected handling so much. I found that anything over 1-2psi of the recommended tire pressures in the manual severely disrupts the handling of the car.
You do not want to look at the nominal tread width distance, but the relative difference between the front and the rear. Doing so, you get...
Stock = 205f and 245r, so 245/205 = 1.20
Your setup = 215f and 255r, so 255/215 = 1.19
This is very simplified, as we all know not all tire tread widths are created equal, so factor that into the above. Regardless, thee is not that much of a difference in relative widths, so you'll be fine.
Stock = 205f and 245r, so 245/205 = 1.20
Your setup = 215f and 255r, so 255/215 = 1.19
This is very simplified, as we all know not all tire tread widths are created equal, so factor that into the above. Regardless, thee is not that much of a difference in relative widths, so you'll be fine.
Originally Posted by deathsled,Feb 15 2007, 09:26 PM
that is waaaaay off unfortunately. The problems is that not all tires of the same "size" share the same tread width, rendering your simplified math almost useless. Did you totally ignore the fact that the original poster did computations using the ACTUAL tread width of both the RE050s and the RT615s, and the difference in stagger was pretty significant?
as we all know not all tire tread widths are created equal

OP, let us know how you make out if you decide to run this setup
I have used the Azenis on my Miata and loved them.
With that said I was running no where near those pressures on the track. That's the pressure I was running for autocross. I was down near 32 on the TRACK.
With that said I was running no where near those pressures on the track. That's the pressure I was running for autocross. I was down near 32 on the TRACK.
Originally Posted by gbuka,Feb 16 2007, 12:45 PM
I've heard from several people track side that 615s(or was it the old Azenis') get greasy after a few laps on the track? Has anyone running the tire experienced something of this nature?
once u feel they r overheat too quick, either take off or back up ur driving style smoother!
Originally Posted by Jaku,Feb 16 2007, 03:16 PM
depending on how agressive u drive, the more agressive u drive, the easier RT615 will give up! and it gives up quicker than most tires, too!
once u feel they r overheat too quick, either take off or back up ur driving style smoother!
once u feel they r overheat too quick, either take off or back up ur driving style smoother!



