In looking at the OP's signature which lists everything including his "carbon fiber exhaust bumper cap," I'm assuming that it's a casual track day car. Looks like 235 / 255 Nitto NT05s, so assuming that it's not for any sanctioned competition (or else there'd be a different tire choice).

I don't think the front bar is going to matter all that much as he's remained staggered and he's not running crazy grip tires.

Probably could get away with a weak front bar if he's not concerned about speed.

I could see a very drivable and stable car setup with a Whiteline front bar, 235 / 255 Nittos and a fair amount of rear toe in.

Of course, it wouldn't be nearly as fast on track as a car with stiffer springs and better shocks (he's running OEM AP2 shocks, I'm assuming springs are OEM, too) and 255 square Hoosiers with minimal rear toe. That combination would need something stiffer in the front, IMHO.

 

since the OP isn't here and hasn't responded...

He's a SoCal guy, and realistically the only competition racing he would do is the S2K Challenge, which he hasn't done yet. It's definitely not for an auto-x setup, so the STR etc. etc. setups don't apply here.

My guess is that he'd do just fine with swift sway bars front and rear for running HPDE time trials.

 

What swaybar(s) are you running? I'm very highly considering putting my car back stock and running in the stock class next year.

 

Stock bars. I was considering getting Disco's ASM bars, but i'm just going to save the money and use it for track fees. I figure I'll probably end up with a swift FSB at the very least once I step up to street class, which i'm not going to yet.

As for you, I think it would be beneficial to go back to stock. You just need stock shocks/springs, header, wheels-tires and exhaust, right?

For me, it's kind of a no brainer at this point staying stock. I save money by not needing to upgrade, and I'm still learning the limits of the car. There's definitely a lot more time I can make up at each of these tracks, and it's all driver related.

 

Stock bars. I was considering getting Disco's ASM bars, but i'm just going to save the money and use it for track fees. I figure I'll probably end up with a swift FSB at the very least once I step up to street class, which i'm not going to yet.

As for you, I think it would be beneficial to go back to stock. You just need stock shocks/springs, header, wheels-tires and exhaust, right?

For me, it's kind of a no brainer at this point staying stock. I save money by not needing to upgrade, and I'm still learning the limits of the car. There's definitely a lot more time I can make up at each of these tracks, and it's all driver related.
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Yeah I have all my stock parts so it wouldn't be hard,I would leave the exhaust on though and maybe do a hard top for my other.25

 

The plan is to run the street class for the S2K challenge.

I'm going to run 255/255 non-staggered next and I want to tone down the oversteer at the track. I recently picked up a set of 255/40/17 Hankook RS3's that I have yet to mount.

Tracks that I plan to run are Big Willow, Streets of Willow, Buttonwillow, Autoclub, etc.

With 235/255 and stock sway bars my car still oversteers more than I'd like it to. My friend who runs a Saner front and AP2 sway in the rear w/ 255 non-staggered says my car oversteers a lot more than his does after driving my car for several laps around SOW.

 

met you at SOW couple weeks back. PM ya

 

Wait what? Let me take a few laps in your car... I'll tell you if its really oversteering or just feels like its oversteering.

Most (if not all) of street class doesn't run sway bars.

Your car should be understeering with AP2 shocks and S-tech springs. What are your alignment settings and do you have a BSK installed (and set)?

 

Not sure I'd be able have the car the same way I had it at the last track day since I was supposed to trade my stock front sway bar for a Saner bar with someone on this board and they backed out last minute because someone else offered him more money. I already had my front sway off and I messed up one of the stock endlinks where the hex key goes (due to rust).

Right now I have no front sway until I can find one (hoping another one comes through soon) and I don't feel like buying new stock endlinks only to use them temporarily.

Alignment was done by West End. 1/8 toe in on the rear, 2.75 negative camber in rear, 2.25 negative camber in front with zero toe. Darin also installed my Megan BSK.

I might be at SOW on 11/27 if you're there.

 

I'll be at SoWS on 12/3 for sure.

I may be there 11/26-27, depending on my work schedule.

I'll also be at BW 11/20 if you're going to that.


You should definitely have SOME front sway on before the track day.... stock ones are pretty cheap.