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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Anyone used both blues and dtc-70's? Any differences? I have done two seasons with blues and now thinking bout trying the dtc-70's as that's what I have as my rears.. Anyone have any comparison info?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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http://andrew-racing.com/file/630-Ha...ison+chart.pdf
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Wow, thanks speedengineer!
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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I've done a couple days on just blues and a couple on dtc-60 front and blues rear. I could feel the blues start to fade later in the afternoon but with the 60's in the front they stay strong the whole day.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:48 PM
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We have found the DTC-60 front and HT-10 rear to be an awesome combination on these cars. If the car is set up well and has a wing the DTC-60 in the rear is the best combination. The DTC-70 is a great compound, however it is significantly more expensive and I don't feel it is worth the extra expense on these cars. more suited for a heavier car. The DTC-60 seems to last a bit longer as well. The Blue is old technology and does not provide the performance that the DTC-60 does. The blue compound can fade and if run too hot does become abrasive on the rotor and creates a lot of dust from the rotor.

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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Thank you for the feedback! My next setup I will try running dtc-60s/front and ht-10's rear!!
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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after extensive brake pad testing. i wouldn't recommend any race pad from Hawk.
stick with cobalt, carbotech, and performance friction.
cobalt 3 pads for entry level track or aggressive autox.
cobalt 2 front and 3 rear for heavy track.
let me know if you need supplier.
just my .002
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rrthorne8
after extensive brake pad testing. i wouldn't recommend any race pad from Hawk.
stick with cobalt, carbotech, and performance friction.
cobalt 3 pads for entry level track or aggressive autox.
cobalt 2 front and 3 rear for heavy track.
let me know if you need supplier.
just my .002
Perhaps you'd care to elaborate on your extensive testing? What don't you like about the Hawk pads?

Hawk are a well known and commonly used race pad. Take a walk around the paddock and ask people what they use, you'll find them all over the place. I've used Carbotech XP10's (and XP8's), and they've got nothing on Hawk DTC-60's in terms of initial bite and fade resistance. Hawk brake dust does suck though. I've heard decent things about the Cobalts, but they are $$ so I've yet to try them yet when the Hawks are cheaper and are capable of locking up my Hoosiers at 120mph.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:04 AM
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Being negative about other brake pad manufactures is not our style.
All of those companies mentioned make very good products. They all have slight positive or negative attributes but when it comes down to it they are all are good friction materials. We have the opportunity to distribute other brands of brakes but stay true to our conviction on what works best overall.
We are confident that the performance is in line or a bit better than other brands. It is not common knowledge but a person would be surprised over the years to learn how many re-labeled brake brands were manufactured by Hawk or Wellman now Carlisle.
See our video here for the reasons we like Hawk beyond performance.
http://youtu.be/0xsO2bc-QDk
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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yes hawk pads have great bite. and the DTC-60's work well, i have had sets of both 60's and 70's. My negatives on them are rotor wear, the 70's have to narrow a peak operating temperature, slightly above or below causes extensive pad wear. Hawk's dust, a lot, 60-70's lot lot. and its not nice dust, its corrode and ruin wheels in a weekend dust. The release is hard to modulate on the 60's, but the 70's i have no problem. inital bite and torque are awesome. the plus has its upsides, great bite while cold, yet has no torque and the release is less then ideal..
The carbotechs are great on pad and rotor life, plus there release is excellent. However they lack initial bite, which can be nice on our cars since the abs system is far to sensitive, but in the real world im not a fan.
The Cobalts are still my favorite and perform just how i like.
Feel free to knock me, for knocking Hawk, again just some random kids .002
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