KW V3 setting with R-Compound tires
06-09-2011, 01:46 PM
#51
Registered User
I just came across this thread and am eager to try bills suggested settings for my KW's. The rebound(top) from my understanding, to have it at full stiff is looking down on it from above and going clockwise until stiff correct?
And compression at the bottom, is full stiff clockwise or counterclockwise when looking at it from the top like the rebound?
And compression at the bottom, is full stiff clockwise or counterclockwise when looking at it from the top like the rebound?
For Compression: Look at the "window" where the adjuster is. Stick the tool on the left side of the 'window' and "sweep" the adjuster to the right. That is stiffer. (If you look at from the top like Rebound, Compression is stiffer = COUNTERclockwise.) I don't like to view it this way because it confuses me. Just go from left to right in the 1/4 turn "window" of the adjuster.
Billy
06-09-2011, 04:43 PM
#53
Former Moderator
My setup...
Rebound;
Front...3 clicks from full stiff
Rear...13 clicks from full stiff
Compression was set at (2) 1/4 turns from full stiff all around.
Non staggered 17x9 rpf1's with 245/40(toyo R1R's) tires all around.
I started off with the same setup as my friend had but noticed the car exhibited oversteer through every corner. So I started tuning the suspension and found the setup I posted above as the neutral setup with a hint of understeer.
The KW V3's were clearly designed and tuned with a staggered setup in mind but from some online research Hyperco makes replacement springs that would benefit better for the non staggered setup.
Alignment for both vehicles were the same...
6.4-6.5 caster
-2.5 camber front
-3.0 camber rear
0 toe all around.
Rebound;
Front...3 clicks from full stiff
Rear...13 clicks from full stiff
Compression was set at (2) 1/4 turns from full stiff all around.
Non staggered 17x9 rpf1's with 245/40(toyo R1R's) tires all around.
I started off with the same setup as my friend had but noticed the car exhibited oversteer through every corner. So I started tuning the suspension and found the setup I posted above as the neutral setup with a hint of understeer.
The KW V3's were clearly designed and tuned with a staggered setup in mind but from some online research Hyperco makes replacement springs that would benefit better for the non staggered setup.
Alignment for both vehicles were the same...
6.4-6.5 caster
-2.5 camber front
-3.0 camber rear
0 toe all around.
he KW V3's were clearly designed and tuned with a staggered setup in mind but from some online research Hyperco makes replacement springs that would benefit better for the non staggered setup.
06-10-2011, 01:04 AM
#54
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 678
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Great thread!
My settings are:
Rebound 2/6
Compression 1 all around
9", 255 non-staggered, stock sway bars, Swift 12/10 springs.
I am thinking of dropping my rear rebound to 5, maybe 4. But I'm not too sure...I'm running WSIR this Sunday and don't really want to experiment too much there.
My settings are:
Rebound 2/6
Compression 1 all around
9", 255 non-staggered, stock sway bars, Swift 12/10 springs.
I am thinking of dropping my rear rebound to 5, maybe 4. But I'm not too sure...I'm running WSIR this Sunday and don't really want to experiment too much there.
06-10-2011, 10:05 AM
#55
Registered User
My setup...
Rebound;
Front...3 clicks from full stiff
Rear...13 clicks from full stiff
Compression was set at (2) 1/4 turns from full stiff all around.
Non staggered 17x9 rpf1's with 245/40(toyo R1R's) tires all around.
I started off with the same setup as my friend had but noticed the car exhibited oversteer through every corner. So I started tuning the suspension and found the setup I posted above as the neutral setup with a hint of understeer.
The KW V3's were clearly designed and tuned with a staggered setup in mind but from some online research Hyperco makes replacement springs that would benefit better for the non staggered setup.
Alignment for both vehicles were the same...
6.4-6.5 caster
-2.5 camber front
-3.0 camber rear
0 toe all around.
Rebound;
Front...3 clicks from full stiff
Rear...13 clicks from full stiff
Compression was set at (2) 1/4 turns from full stiff all around.
Non staggered 17x9 rpf1's with 245/40(toyo R1R's) tires all around.
I started off with the same setup as my friend had but noticed the car exhibited oversteer through every corner. So I started tuning the suspension and found the setup I posted above as the neutral setup with a hint of understeer.
The KW V3's were clearly designed and tuned with a staggered setup in mind but from some online research Hyperco makes replacement springs that would benefit better for the non staggered setup.
Alignment for both vehicles were the same...
6.4-6.5 caster
-2.5 camber front
-3.0 camber rear
0 toe all around.
he KW V3's were clearly designed and tuned with a staggered setup in mind but from some online research Hyperco makes replacement springs that would benefit better for the non staggered setup.
Current setup:
Compression is set at 2 (1/4 turns from full stiff) all around.
Rebound is set at 5 clicks from full stiff all around.
Caster: 6.5
Front Camber: -1.7 degrees
Rear Camber: -2.5 degrees
front toe: 0
rear toe: Stock
Next setup is going to be 235/255 RE 11's w/
Castor: 6.4-6.5
Front Camber: -2 degrees
Rear camber: -3 degrees
Front toe: 0
Rear toe: stock
I need more camber since the last trackday after careful evaluation of my tire wear.
Gonna keep the rebound and compression adjustments the same and see what the car does.
Wish me luck...
06-10-2011, 06:52 PM
#57
Registered User
Understandable...I am running stock to a touch above stock toe-in in the rear and 0 toe in the front(toe-in in the rear is a big factor). Among a few other things like a bigger front swaybar and going back to non-staggered setup(235/265). The car is perfectly neutral in slow to mid speed corners but under steers in the high speed corners.
Current setup:
Compression is set at 2 (1/4 turns from full stiff) all around.
Rebound is set at 5 clicks from full stiff all around.
Caster: 6.5
Front Camber: -1.7 degrees
Rear Camber: -2.5 degrees
front toe: 0
rear toe: Stock
Next setup is going to be 235/255 RE 11's w/
Castor: 6.4-6.5
Front Camber: -2 degrees
Rear camber: -3 degrees
Front toe: 0
Rear toe: stock
I need more camber since the last trackday after careful evaluation of my tire wear.
Gonna keep the rebound and compression adjustments the same and see what the car does.
Wish me luck...
Current setup:
Compression is set at 2 (1/4 turns from full stiff) all around.
Rebound is set at 5 clicks from full stiff all around.
Caster: 6.5
Front Camber: -1.7 degrees
Rear Camber: -2.5 degrees
front toe: 0
rear toe: Stock
Next setup is going to be 235/255 RE 11's w/
Castor: 6.4-6.5
Front Camber: -2 degrees
Rear camber: -3 degrees
Front toe: 0
Rear toe: stock
I need more camber since the last trackday after careful evaluation of my tire wear.
Gonna keep the rebound and compression adjustments the same and see what the car does.
Wish me luck...
Rubin1out4goodluk - Try 0.5 turns from full stiff (two 1/4 turn 'sweeps'). I'm sure this will be a night and day improvement for your car. Then try your rebound at 3-4 from full stiff front and 5-6 from full stiff rear.
billy
06-10-2011, 11:37 PM
#58
Registered User
Originally Posted by Rubn1out4GudLuk' timestamp='1307729100' post='20669940
Understandable...I am running stock to a touch above stock toe-in in the rear and 0 toe in the front(toe-in in the rear is a big factor). Among a few other things like a bigger front swaybar and going back to non-staggered setup(235/265). The car is perfectly neutral in slow to mid speed corners but under steers in the high speed corners.
Current setup:
Compression is set at 2 (1/4 turns from full stiff) all around.
Rebound is set at 5 clicks from full stiff all around.
Caster: 6.5
Front Camber: -1.7 degrees
Rear Camber: -2.5 degrees
front toe: 0
rear toe: Stock
Next setup is going to be 235/255 RE 11's w/
Castor: 6.4-6.5
Front Camber: -2 degrees
Rear camber: -3 degrees
Front toe: 0
Rear toe: stock
I need more camber since the last trackday after careful evaluation of my tire wear.
Gonna keep the rebound and compression adjustments the same and see what the car does.
Wish me luck...
Current setup:
Compression is set at 2 (1/4 turns from full stiff) all around.
Rebound is set at 5 clicks from full stiff all around.
Caster: 6.5
Front Camber: -1.7 degrees
Rear Camber: -2.5 degrees
front toe: 0
rear toe: Stock
Next setup is going to be 235/255 RE 11's w/
Castor: 6.4-6.5
Front Camber: -2 degrees
Rear camber: -3 degrees
Front toe: 0
Rear toe: stock
I need more camber since the last trackday after careful evaluation of my tire wear.
Gonna keep the rebound and compression adjustments the same and see what the car does.
Wish me luck...
Rubin1out4goodluk - Try 0.5 turns from full stiff (two 1/4 turn 'sweeps'). I'm sure this will be a night and day improvement for your car. Then try your rebound at 3-4 from full stiff front and 5-6 from full stiff rear.
billy
I have the compression exactly where you mentioned it (0.5 turns or 2-1/4 sweeps from full stiff).
The rebound is 5 from full stiff all around...I will try your setup if mine doesn't work out.
I do have that 32mm Cusco front swaybar so I need to keep even compression/rebound all around to eliminate the understeer. So far its really neutral except for high speed corners but I'll give it another go(I might be going in too hot to exhibit the understeer)
02-28-2013, 06:58 PM
#60
I DO NOT like running the 'recommended settings' EVER, on street tires on the street or any other application.
Do a search, I have made tons of posts about ballpark setups and went into more detail.
For simple reference (even for your street tires) set them at ~
Compression F&R: 1-2 sweeps (from full stiff)
Rebound Front: 3-5 clicks (from full stiff)
Rebound Rear: 5-7 clicks (from full stiff)
I'm confident you will like the ride quality and handling much better.
Do a search, I have made tons of posts about ballpark setups and went into more detail.
For simple reference (even for your street tires) set them at ~
Compression F&R: 1-2 sweeps (from full stiff)
Rebound Front: 3-5 clicks (from full stiff)
Rebound Rear: 5-7 clicks (from full stiff)
I'm confident you will like the ride quality and handling much better.
YES...
My car feels much better... thank you
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post