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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 04:42 PM
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 05:02 PM
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by yamahaSHO
The stock exchanger is pretty much useless at high loads (perhaps bypassed). If the track keeps you in this range, I'd imagine the gap will get larger.
Interesting.. I thought I read somewhere else that the stock oil cooler could be bypassed during high flow, but does anyone explain where the bypass is (forgive me if it was mentioned in that thread, I didn't sift through the whole thing).

How are your oil temps compared to w/o the stock oil cooler in terms of getting upto temp? Oil takes some time to get upto temperature I've noticed, especially in cooler weather. Getting the oil upto temp is just as important as it not getting too hot as well. Maybe it's a negligible difference though..?
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by carrnut21
I am making some changes this off season, one of them being adding a Canton oil pan. From what I have read on here it is likely to not help temps, and could possibly increase temps some. I track in the PNW, with temperatures at the warmest track I run usually in the low 80s on a warm day. A 90 degree day would be a very warm track day here and I usually avoid those. I have a Oil temp/pressure gauge to install with the pan, and will see what temps are like before I add a cooler, but I am thinking I will need one. Car is a an '03 with minor power mods, no plans for forced induction in the future. 115k on the original engine, I have ran about twenty 20 minute sessions on it since buying the car with 93k miles. Runs really strong and want to protect it as long as possible.

Anyone running this kit? (link below for reference). I like that it is a complete kit and install looks pretty straight forward. I store the car in my parents shop as I don't have room for it where I live, and something that will bolt on quickly and relatively easily is a plus, as I don't have a ton of time to work on the car and its about 3 hours from me. My mechanical skill is okay at best, and fabricating brackets for some sort of custom kit is not something I have super excited about.

I have read some reviews on their kits for other cars, and have seen mixed reviews in terms of quality. I would run it with the thermostat, as I do drive the car some in cold weather. Appreciate any insight on the subject!

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Thanks for considering our oil cooler kit! Being that you see some track time, an oil cooler addition is a great idea. Looking forward to any data you are able to produce with your vehicle in its current form. As mentioned, a thermostatic kit is highly recommended unless the vehicle is strictly a track vehicle.

Feel free to contact us with any specific questions, we would be happy to provide assistance.

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Originally Posted by SlowTeg
Originally Posted by DaGou' timestamp='1419821647' post='23449776
If you are not boosted I see no need for an oil cooler. Especially with living in cool climate(Have no clue what PNW means, lol). Get an oil temp. probe and gauge to see if you really need it.
An oil cooler is a good idea if you track the car, especially w/ a canton pan. I can't comment on the quality of the Mishimoto oil cooler though.. I know people that use them and they seem to work alright..?
Agreed! A street driven stock car is very likely to stay within the limitations of the factory oil cooler setup. If you do any form of track driving or autocross, an oil cooler addition may be a worthy investment. It really depends upon your vehicle use.

Originally Posted by B serious
My friend has a Mishimoto thermostatic kit. You should for sure get a 200 degree F thermostatic kit if this is a street driven track car.

His kit went together in a straightforward manner. He's mechanically inclined...but a self-admitted cave man....and he said it was very simple to put together. The hose routing in their instructions seems kind of...dumb. But I'm sure you can figure out a better way to route hoses.

I made my own kit using a guide on Rob Robinette's site for parts. The difference in mine is that I did not want to block off more air flow to my radiator. So I used the bumper cavity underneath the right side headlight. I used a carbon fiber duct to guide air to it. Ofcourse, you have to cut the bumper and custom make brackets (I made mine out of aluminum and it took forever to get the cooler to align to the bumper the way I wanted). I used a setrab cooler and custom lines, which are very short...which is a good thing. I think I only needed about 1.5 or 2ft of line on each port.

I love my kit and the way it has no compromises. I used black, Kevlar hoses that don't cut through stuff or stick out like stainless hoses. I routed my hoses mad stealth mode. I think it came out great...but its semi-complex, extremely time consuming, and you have to cut your bumper. I will also have to heat shield the bottom of the headlight ballast. I'm sure it would be fine as is...and there's about a 1.5'' air gap. But if we're being safe, heat shielding it is a good idea.

However, to answer your question, the Mishimoto looks like a very nice kit. I don't like the hose routing or the fact that stainless braided hoses that are non-sheathed.

Either way, the cooler is an excellent idea. I noted much more consistent power delivery on the race track.
Thank you very much for posting up your feedback/opinion. Sounds like we should be taking a look at our hose routing! I too prefer black kevlar hoses for personal builds, so I can see the interest in having this as an option for our kits instead of our stainless lines.

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An NA S2000, not taking a Sunday drive around the track is plenty to get the oil hot enough to warrant an oil cooler.

I have a buddy in Kansas that is running the Mishimoto oil cooler. I don't think he is monitoring temps, but immediately after coming off track, you could definitely feel the oil cooler was doing what it was designed to do. The Mishimoto kit places the cooler forward to get some good air flow.

I made my own kit with the cooler that Rob used and a 200F thermostat. I sunk mine a little lower and made a duct for it. I don't have my oil temps sensor installed yet, but it'll be in for next season, along with a Canton pan.

The Mishimoto kit seemed fine. I personally do not care for stainless lines, so when I built my kit, I used Russel Pro-Classic lines.
Thanks for chiming in!

Originally Posted by raikouS2K
As far as the kit goes, it is a beautiful fit. The brackets for the kit fit perfect and the one off the right frame rail is notched spot on (like an OEM fit.) The only problem I ran into was trying to use the USDM OEM Honda oil filter with the way/angle the lines come out of the sandwich plate. I needed either a smaller diameter filter like the JDM HAMP, or shorter filter. To get my car home from the hobby garage I used a Subaru B4 filter which cleared the lines. After a trip to Autobacs I found the HKS filter for the S2000 was similar in size to the B4s and now that is what I use. I have had no leaks with the kit thus far. It is an easy install with a video tutorial online also. I did change the thermostat in the sandwich plate as mentioned above since I only track my car about 3-4 times per year.

Lastly you can't beat the lifetime warranty that comes with it.



Great to hear you are enjoying the kit! The installation looks fantastic.

Originally Posted by 06Estukay
I've been running this kit in my track car this past season, and it's been rock solid. Fitment was spot on. Installation was very quick and easy. Only complaint is the routing of the lines, over the cross bar then down. I ran my lines underneath. Will be changing the fittings on the oil filter side. The 120* fittings that come with the kit make things a bit awkward. Gonna replace them with straight AN fittings.

This kit is a no brainer for the price and convenience. Also, the Mishimoto warranty is second to none.
Thanks for the feedback regarding our kit, great to hear it is working out for you. Sounds like we may want to take another look at our line routing for this particular kit if a majority of our customers are modifying the route.

Thanks!
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1420507861' post='23457405
The stock exchanger is pretty much useless at high loads (perhaps bypassed). If the track keeps you in this range, I'd imagine the gap will get larger.
Interesting.. I thought I read somewhere else that the stock oil cooler could be bypassed during high flow, but does anyone explain where the bypass is (forgive me if it was mentioned in that thread, I didn't sift through the whole thing).

How are your oil temps compared to w/o the stock oil cooler in terms of getting upto temp? Oil takes some time to get upto temperature I've noticed, especially in cooler weather. Getting the oil upto temp is just as important as it not getting too hot as well. Maybe it's a negligible difference though..?

I don't know if there is an actual bypass, or that the flow exceeds the cores capability to transfer heat well. I tossed mine awhile ago, otherwise I'd cut it open. I've always found these heat exchangers useless under track conditions on any car I've tracked.

I haven't installed my oil temp sensor, so I'm not positive on the how long it takes to warm up. Most of my driving consisted of track time last year, so I warm it up fast. I am a firm believe in keeping oil in the correct temperature range. I will have the temps sensor in for this years track season and I'm hoping I'll see 220-250F on track.
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by yamahaSHO
I haven't installed my oil temp sensor, so I'm not positive on the how long it takes to warm up. Most of my driving consisted of track time last year, so I warm it up fast. I am a firm believe in keeping oil in the correct temperature range. I will have the temps sensor in for this years track season and I'm hoping I'll see 220-250F on track.
I'll have to log things and be a little more scientific about measuring things from now on, just for comparison's sake. I remember though in cooler temps (say low 50's) it can take at least 5 mins or so of stop and go traffic for the oil temp to rise to above 100F or so. Water temp will hit its peak in 5 mins or so, but oil temp is way behind. I remember at the track depending on how long you let the car run in the staging lanes, it can take a lap or two at least for oil temps to get equal with water temps. Just a reminder to get things upto temp before beating on it.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 03:10 PM
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John at Mishimoto: any chance the Mishimoto oil cooler kit for the S2000 will be modified anytime soon to include straight AN fittings (that eliminate the 120° fittings and would improve the hose routing) and provide an option for sheathed, stealth-black, nylon outer braid lines similar to the Russell ProClassic lines that yamahaSHO elected to use with his DIY oil cooler setup?

I am planning on buying an oil cooler kit (or DIY-ing one) in the next 60 days or so... not that it would be reasonable to ask a big company to hop on revising one of their products at the behest of exactly ONE potential customer who states they're waiting for a "V2" of said product.

Thank you for your consideration and for Mishimoto's support of our vehicles!

Originally Posted by Mishimoto
Thank you very much for posting up your feedback/opinion. Sounds like we should be taking a look at our hose routing! I too prefer black kevlar hoses for personal builds, so I can see the interest in having this as an option for our kits instead of our stainless lines.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1419914518' post='23450807
An NA S2000, not taking a Sunday drive around the track is plenty to get the oil hot enough to warrant an oil cooler.

I have a buddy in Kansas that is running the Mishimoto oil cooler. I don't think he is monitoring temps, but immediately after coming off track, you could definitely feel the oil cooler was doing what it was designed to do.

The Mishimoto kit places the cooler forward to get some good air flow.I made my own kit with the cooler that Rob used and a 200F thermostat. I sunk mine a little lower and made a duct for it. I don't have my oil temps sensor installed yet, but it'll be in for next season, along with a Canton pan.

The Mishimoto kit seemed fine. I personally do not care for stainless lines, so when I built my kit, I used Russel Pro-Classic lines.

Thanks for chiming in!

Originally Posted by raikouS2K
As far as the kit goes, it is a beautiful fit. The brackets for the kit fit perfect and the one off the right frame rail is notched spot on (like an OEM fit.) The only problem I ran into was trying to use the USDM OEM Honda oil filter with the way/angle the lines come out of the sandwich plate. I needed either a smaller diameter filter like the JDM HAMP, or shorter filter. To get my car home from the hobby garage I used a Subaru B4 filter which cleared the lines. After a trip to Autobacs I found the HKS filter for the S2000 was similar in size to the B4s and now that is what I use. I have had no leaks with the kit thus far. It is an easy install with a video tutorial online also. I did change the thermostat in the sandwich plate as mentioned above since I only track my car about 3-4 times per year.

Lastly you can't beat the lifetime warranty that comes with it.



Great to hear you are enjoying the kit! The installation looks fantastic.

Originally Posted by 06Estukay
I've been running this kit in my track car this past season, and it's been rock solid. Fitment was spot on. Installation was very quick and easy. Only complaint is the routing of the lines, over the cross bar then down. I ran my lines underneath. Will be changing the fittings on the oil filter side. The 120* fittings that come with the kit make things a bit awkward. Gonna replace them with straight AN fittings.

This kit is a no brainer for the price and convenience. Also, the Mishimoto warranty is second to none.
Thanks for the feedback regarding our kit, great to hear it is working out for you. Sounds like we may want to take another look at our line routing for this particular kit if a majority of our customers are modifying the route.

Thanks!
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 03:38 PM
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was at PBIR this past weekend, oil temp gauge was blinking with the canton pan installed which means the oil temp exceeded 293 F. this was in ambient 60 F weather

canton pan definitely causes a somewhat noticeable increase in oil temps

gonna piece together a oil cooler kit after all
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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Seen a few oil cooler kits on other platforms that had their fittings blow off with just a couple of track days. It's probably better to work with a Setrab setup at this point.
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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 10:59 PM
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I would like to dig this up a bit.
Has anyone numbers on oil pressure comparison between WITH mishimoto oil cooler kit and WITHOUT?
Has anyone information about the internal diameters of the lines?
I am in contact with the mishimoto service staff for two weeks now and besides long response times it seems to be very difficult for them to tell me the internal diameters.
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