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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 12:56 PM
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Before I owned my S2000 I wanted to get this lip purely for how it looked. Of course now that I own the car and autox/track it, I don't exactly want to just throw it on if it doesn't do anything.

My hopeful thinking is that since it adds some meat to the bottom of the bumper, it'll help keep out air and produce a little bit of negative lift, nowhere near a splitter, but at least a little.

Anyone own these and notice a difference in performance?

Im also thinking about adding some canards along with the lip, but overall, it might be easier to just get a splitter, what do you guys think?

(I'm also pairing with a CR wing soon so hopefully that doesnt upset the balance, I've read that the CR wing reduces rear lift as opposed to lots of downforce)


I'm not building this car to a competitive level btw, I just want to build a nicely balanced car and I compete to work on my driver mod :P

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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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Honestly if you wanted a bit of improvement from a splitter you would want rear downforce first with a wing like 9LR. Race Composites makes a great splitter but it's recommended to have a lip on the factory bumper.
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Live Fast
Honestly if you wanted a bit of improvement from a splitter you would want rear downforce first with a wing like 9LR. Race Composites makes a great splitter but it's recommended to have a lip on the factory bumper.
A bit excessive, I treat my S as a do-it-all car including daily driving.


I am curious about how more rear downforce can give a splitter a greater effect. Wouldnt excessive rear downforce lift the front, which in turn reduce a splitter's effectiveness or am I missing the point entirely?
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 05:48 AM
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if your going with a cr wing, add a cr lip. honda designed them to work together and i can assure you they spent more time engineering a balanced package than the average joe is capable of recreating. can you do better with splitters and wings, oh absolutely. but if you want the mild aero/ oem look its hard to beat that cr package
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Old Jan 5, 2021 | 04:46 AM
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The lip doesn't do anything besides aesthetics. The CR package is very minimal aero gain as well, unfortunately.
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Old Jan 6, 2021 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by roel03
The lip doesn't do anything besides aesthetics. The CR package is very minimal aero gain as well, unfortunately.
i will wholeheartedly disagree with that statement. the cr aero package is very much a functional and very well balanced aero package at that.

per honda directly regarding the cr aero: Coefficient of Lift (Cl) Decreased by 70 to 80 Percent Overall

can you do better with a aftermarket wing and splitter, absolutely, but the cr aero package is both functional and well balanced.

https://hondanews.com/en-US/releases...0-introduction
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Old Jan 6, 2021 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DelinquentDJ
A bit excessive, I treat my S as a do-it-all car including daily driving.
I am curious about how more rear downforce can give a splitter a greater effect. Wouldnt excessive rear downforce lift the front, which in turn reduce a splitter's effectiveness or am I missing the point entirely?
For just daily driving then you could get some devsport spiliter mount/releases, and go to a sign shop to get some material to cut your own splitter.

For our cars it's recommended to add the rear wing FIRST since the downforce on the rear at higher speeds can be effective without a effective front splitter.

I'm no aerodynamic engineer so I won't pretend to know exactly how to works but from my basic understanding

Adding the front splitter without the wing causes the front to dive more and you don't have the downforce on the rear to help effectively making your rear end less stable at speed.
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Originally Posted by scottdh20
i will wholeheartedly disagree with that statement. the cr aero package is very much a functional and very well balanced aero package at that.

per honda directly regarding the cr aero: Coefficient of Lift (Cl) Decreased by 70 to 80 Percent Overall

can you do better with a aftermarket wing and splitter, absolutely, but the cr aero package is both functional and well balanced.

https://hondanews.com/en-US/releases...0-introduction
I have ran CFD with/without CR package and tested them on track, but to each their own I guess.

You would also be surprised how little work OEMs do on these aero packages, especially on a car with the S2000s budget.
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Old Jan 9, 2021 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by roel03
I have ran CFD with/without CR package and tested them on track, but to each their own I guess.

You would also be surprised how little work OEMs do on these aero packages, especially on a car with the S2000s budget.
I'm rules limited to the CR wing/ front lip, so no splitter or non oe wing. Would the CR lip still be functional over nothing?
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