NCRC and broomstick rule
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NCRC just posted this today.
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Have NCRC help pay for your safety equipment!
Not only does NCRC provide its drivers with some of the most cost-effective track days, but today we’re making another industry-first move to demonstrate that safety continues to be our top priority. We will help pay for the upgrades necessary to pass the broomstick test in your convertible and be safer on the track. *
Here’s how it works:
1) Purchase and install your rollbar and/or seat lowering kit.
2) Send us your receipts for parts and labor (must be dated after May 10, 2010).
3) We’ll discount every event you attend with us by $50 for the next two years, or until we’ve paid half of the upgrade cost.
Recently we’ve seen a fair bit of “fudging” from drivers on the broomstick test, which up to now has been self-administered. As of the June 25 Thunderhill event, we’ll be checking convertibles with the broomstick at every event, and drivers that do not pass the test will not be allowed on the track. No refunds will be given for failure to pass the broomstick test.
Please contact us at dave@ncracing.org before purchasing any equipment under this program. For more information about NCRC’s rules relating to convertibles, see this link: http://www.ncracing.org/rules.php#convertible
* NCRC will pay up to $500 toward equipment and installation costs. Offer is open to any convertible car which does not pass the broomstick
Not only does NCRC provide its drivers with some of the most cost-effective track days, but today we’re making another industry-first move to demonstrate that safety continues to be our top priority. We will help pay for the upgrades necessary to pass the broomstick test in your convertible and be safer on the track. *
Here’s how it works:
1) Purchase and install your rollbar and/or seat lowering kit.
2) Send us your receipts for parts and labor (must be dated after May 10, 2010).
3) We’ll discount every event you attend with us by $50 for the next two years, or until we’ve paid half of the upgrade cost.
Recently we’ve seen a fair bit of “fudging” from drivers on the broomstick test, which up to now has been self-administered. As of the June 25 Thunderhill event, we’ll be checking convertibles with the broomstick at every event, and drivers that do not pass the test will not be allowed on the track. No refunds will be given for failure to pass the broomstick test.
Please contact us at dave@ncracing.org before purchasing any equipment under this program. For more information about NCRC’s rules relating to convertibles, see this link: http://www.ncracing.org/rules.php#convertible
* NCRC will pay up to $500 toward equipment and installation costs. Offer is open to any convertible car which does not pass the broomstick
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Wow damn they will pay even more attention now 
Anyways, I bought some lower brackets from F1spec for cheap, but I'm having trouble installing them, for those with lowered bucket seats, please help!!
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https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=787576
Anyways, I bought some lower brackets from F1spec for cheap, but I'm having trouble installing them, for those with lowered bucket seats, please help!!
thread link
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=787576
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(The following is all just a guess.)
Of all the West Coast tracks, Thunderhill seems to be the most sensitive to convertibles. Most of the West Coast tracks just seem to let the event organizers make the rules and take the liability, but Thunderhill seems to have some track policies.
At the same time, there has been a legal fight between THill and NCRC. THill was refusing to give NCRC dates because they were not charging enough! NCRC lapping is quite cheap because it's really just a way to subsidize their race groups.
Anyway, I wouldn't be too surprised if this new emphasis is due to NCRC needing to make sure they dot every i and cross every t when it comes to running at THill, so THill doesn't have any excuse to take their dates away again.
Of all the West Coast tracks, Thunderhill seems to be the most sensitive to convertibles. Most of the West Coast tracks just seem to let the event organizers make the rules and take the liability, but Thunderhill seems to have some track policies.
At the same time, there has been a legal fight between THill and NCRC. THill was refusing to give NCRC dates because they were not charging enough! NCRC lapping is quite cheap because it's really just a way to subsidize their race groups.
Anyway, I wouldn't be too surprised if this new emphasis is due to NCRC needing to make sure they dot every i and cross every t when it comes to running at THill, so THill doesn't have any excuse to take their dates away again.
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,May 8 2010, 08:55 AM
(The following is all just a guess.)
Of all the West Coast tracks, Thunderhill seems to be the most sensitive to convertibles. Most of the West Coast tracks just seem to let the event organizers make the rules and take the liability, but Thunderhill seems to have some track policies.
At the same time, there has been a legal fight between THill and NCRC. THill was refusing to give NCRC dates because they were not charging enough! NCRC lapping is quite cheap because it's really just a way to subsidize their race groups.
Anyway, I wouldn't be too surprised if this new emphasis is due to NCRC needing to make sure they dot every i and cross every t when it comes to running at THill, so THill doesn't have any excuse to take their dates away again.
Of all the West Coast tracks, Thunderhill seems to be the most sensitive to convertibles. Most of the West Coast tracks just seem to let the event organizers make the rules and take the liability, but Thunderhill seems to have some track policies.
At the same time, there has been a legal fight between THill and NCRC. THill was refusing to give NCRC dates because they were not charging enough! NCRC lapping is quite cheap because it's really just a way to subsidize their race groups.
Anyway, I wouldn't be too surprised if this new emphasis is due to NCRC needing to make sure they dot every i and cross every t when it comes to running at THill, so THill doesn't have any excuse to take their dates away again.
Firstly, like every other track, Thunderhill does not have a convertible policy. They do have rules that apply to their own events, but for events run by oudside organizers, they don't set any convertible rules.
I'm not quite sure on your comment about NCRC open track subsidizing our race group. If your comment had been "NCRC lapping is expensive because it's a way to subsidize their race group" then I could at least understand the logic, but in any event, that's not the case, both our open track and race groups are quite affordable because of our business model. One doesn't subsidize the other.
The only reason we're starting this broomstick testing at our June 25 Thunderhill event first, is to give drivers advance notice, otherwise we'd be kicking a lot of folks out of our June 5-6 Buttonwillow event. We'll be enforcing the rule at all tracks after that.
Thanks,
Dave
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Hey, thanks for correcting me. I was guessing, and don't want to spread misinformation.
I've driven with NCRC at THill before and enjoyed it a lot. I hope you continue to be able to put on events there.
By the way, it's been reported here that some of the East Coast tracks do have convertible policies that they apply to all events, regardless of who organizes them.
I've driven with NCRC at THill before and enjoyed it a lot. I hope you continue to be able to put on events there.
By the way, it's been reported here that some of the East Coast tracks do have convertible policies that they apply to all events, regardless of who organizes them.
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Dave, NCRC should be commended for taking such a large step to wards safety.. It's one thing to make it a cut and dry issue, this is totally different. I really hope that s2ks will take advantage of the offer. I know I would if I was not already set up!
Thanks for the support!
See you guys on the 5th & 6th!
-Rob
Thanks for the support!
See you guys on the 5th & 6th!
-Rob