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Old 09-14-2013, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
[ The 'angle' should really be from the CG of the bike and rider together drawn to the contact points of the tires; there's a reason the riders hang off the bikes

There is no variation in G force between different compound tires at the same lean angle. It's the compounds ability to reach lean angles. MotoGP guys are going over 60 degrees now. I can tell you my street tires on my 600RR sure as hell will not get to that lean angle and the associated lateral G force. They would lose traction way before that, at a lower lean angle and lower lateral G force.
Exactly. I was simplifying a bit by not mentioning the CG but spdracerut is correct.

Also, even if a street tire could reach 60deg lean angle, it would overheat very quickly when ridden hard. Same as with car street vs. track tires.
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Don't forget slip moto gp guys know how to use to go faster.

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I used to roadrace w/ CMRA, and have done countless motorcycle track days. I used to really enjoy it, but then went to the dirt side and enjoy that even more - it's far cheaper, safer (IMO), a better workout, more fun, and the gear is a lot more comfortable esp. in hot weather.

No doubt, motorcycles are more fun than cars, but now that I have a kid and the responsibilities that go w/ it, I think it's best that I enjoy sportbikes from a spectator perspective now. Still enjoy dirt bikes (and occasionally race cross country), and I'm on a waiting list for a Honda Grom, which I think will be a blast in the real world streets around where I live.
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Originally Posted by TWF
Originally Posted by robrob' timestamp='1379158436' post='22777825
I tracked my GSX-R1000 before I started tracking cars and it was very inexpensive and a lot of fun.
If I go my normal speed on 1000 I can't even get one day out of rear tire. 1000's eat them like they are free
btw. was to come and race Summit next weekend and just got call they canceled race weekend. They moved it to RA 2 weeks later.
Why the move from Summit Point?
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Originally Posted by TWF
Don't forget slip moto gp guys know how to use to go faster.
Yea, the slip angle of the Moto GP guys is just jaw dropping.

On an unrelated note, I had a 'The future is here" moment when I saw the giant hydrofoiling catamarans of the America's Cup yacht racing series in action around San Francisco Bay. If you haven't seen them yet tune in to NBC Sprots channel at 3pm Eastern today (15th), the 17th or (maybe) the 19th to see them in action. The Kiwi's almost capsized yesterday in a spectacular incident yesterday.
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I loved watching Stoner in MotoGP as he would slide the piss out of the rear from corner entry all the way out. But Marc Marquez is at even more insane level. Watching the race at Silverstone, he had a two-wheel drift going mid-corner..... un-freakin-real In MotoGP, unless you're straddling that line of grip and slide, you aren't going fast enough. Insane balance...

And the boats in America's Cup are insane! Talk about serious technology in those things. And the guys on the boats have major cajones too.
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Originally Posted by robrob
Why the move from Summit Point?
I think it is because another event going on at VIR in same time. Other event is in bigger importance to guys doing sprint races and they would most like go there. That leaves as endurance teams and whatever number shows for sprint races to pay for 3 day weekend. They can't change pricing on entry fees in last minute, it is set for year. So, choice is to cancel or lose money.
That is rumor, not official reason. Economy is making racing hard lately.
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
And the boats in America's Cup are insane! Talk about serious technology in those things.
And serious money
I love sailing, used to do a lot one man sailing and windsurfing. My brother is still in it and just last night we were painting his new board he is taking to Africa for speed record competition in November.
Check the speed of fastest sail boat
http://luderitz-speed.com/speed-world-ranking
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