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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 07:18 AM
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Default Offset ball joints and adjustable ball joints

Let me start by saying I've read through thread after thread as we'll robrob's blog, but I'm a total noob and just need a quick clarification or course any further explanation is very appreciated.

Also want to state that as much as if love to work on my car and learn about it I just don't have the time and the limited time I have id live for it to be on the track.

I just want to confirm I have all the components that I need so when I have my car aligned and dialed in I won't be missing anything. The place tuning suspension doesn't know much about s2000's unfortunately but the person doing my other installs only works on s2k's but not a ton of track cars.

Ok so here's the question after all that:

I ordered buddy club front camber joints (aka offset ball joints) thinking these would be what I need to get an aggressive camber up front. In reading threads I believe these will also help with the rear roll center which is important on a lowered ap1.

However I've also been reading about front adjustable ball joints to help with front camber. Is there any reason to have both installed in the car or am I fine with just the offset ball joints?

Thanks guys again I'm just going nuts figuring this out and I give up searching.
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 07:57 AM
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So from what I know there are off set ball joints which help camber and a plate that will correct roll center in the front. If you install without the plate it's camber only

The rear has roll center/camber joints all in one a well
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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So basically they are the same just one has the plate for roll center?
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 04:49 PM
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Yep. Sometimes they are built in aka thicker
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 05:18 PM
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any idea which brand does what?
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 06:00 PM
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Megan/hard racing has the following options:
- non offset roll center correcting ball joints
- offset ball joints (static) with roll center plates

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- s1 offset ball joint
- s2 offset ball joint (more offset, more static negative camber)
- l1 offset ball joint plus roll center adjuster plate
- l2 offset ball joint (more offset, more static negative camber) plus roll center adjuster plate

Buddy club p1
Adjustable offset ball join plus offset roll center adjuster

Sbc also has options for the upper ball joint, the ones I mentioned are all the lower ball joint replacement options.

Read my thread if you are going to use Megan/hard race so you are aware of possible difficulties during installation.



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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gptoyz
Megan/hard racing has the following options:
- non offset roll center correcting ball joints
- offset ball joints (static) with roll center plates

Js
- s1 offset ball joint
- s2 offset ball joint (more offset, more static negative camber)
- l1 offset ball joint plus roll center adjuster plate
- l2 offset ball joint (more offset, more static negative camber) plus roll center adjuster plate

Buddy club p1
Adjustable offset ball join plus offset roll center adjuster

Sbc also has options for the upper ball joint, the ones I mentioned are all the lower ball joint replacement options.

Read my thread if you are going to use Megan/hard race so you are aware of possible difficulties during installation.



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Leaning towards megan. can you post a link to your thread please?
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/index.php...SER-WARNING%21


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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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Megan's for 20k so far no issues or noise. Use a washer and your all good
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 05:17 AM
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I wouldn't mess with the geometry at all before you have maybe a dozen trackdays at least.
All the talk about bump-steer and whatever is a load of crap the car is fine.

The only thing that you might want to deal with at some point is getting enough front camber.

For Nasa TT to not take any points and get camber to about -3 you can get an offset upper control arm bushing made of delrin or something.
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