That is far too large of an assumption to make based on a statement about countersteering. I don't feel the need to name-drop, but suffice it to say that your assumption is incorrect. How you got that I'm being instructed to drive at 5/10ths when I'm being instructed to drift corners is beyond me.

I don't think that video is particularly helpful, in light of the fact that (1) I question whether any of his logs would be released (like someone else said earlier) and (2) any professional driver you talk to will say they push the car to the limits. He does not specifically mention countersteering in that interview either, it is just a random clip about how he pushes the car to the limit through the corner and through the entire lap.

I think that you and I are thinking about two different levels of countersteering. When I read the OP's question, it reminded me of watching a lot of the Japanese racing videos, particularly of former touge drivers, where they are applying a large amount of countersteer on almost every turn, almost drifting corners. Obviously slight corrections have to be made constantly, but I was taking the question under the impression that OP was talking about large oversteering. I thought that was evident by my description of what my "countersteering" was, as I was talking about full-on drifting corners.

I would agree that you have to constantly make corrections though.

 

Do you mean like this:


http://vimeo.com/12896440

100mph full lock slide. Go to 5:15

 

Yes, I watched that video. Notice how in the turns he is still "smooth" when counter steering and correcting. Plus, idk about you but i don't think many people have enough skill to successfully do what he does without more exaggerated sliding/correcting.

 

Congratulations sir. You are driving at 10/10ths.

 

I was seeing how late I could brake going into turn 1. I was still wide open until after the transition from the banking at about 125mph. I didn't trail off the brakes enough. As you can see from the video, the slightest steering input sent me into that slide. I was so sideways the tail of the car was leading.

 

I apologize if that was a link to the video I described, but I am on deployment and cannot view videos as our bandwidth is limited. Youtube is completely blocked.

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Beard,

I completely agree that not many people have that skill. In a car set up to slightly oversteer, I think that countersteering, however infinitesimal, will be present.

 

I think this is a good example of steering at the limits. Most people know Jensen Button as one of the smoothest drivers in F1. It shows in his lap times and how well he can preserve tires, yet even he countersteers at the ragged edge.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ck05AfWIf0 [/media]

Although it is hard to notice even he has minute corrections in almost every turn.


I love Monaco

 

Agreed

 

x 100%

Corrections are necessary, but not the goal.

 

Good summary