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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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I've done about 10 trackdays now I can heel toe ok. Last track day I got some tips off an instructor he was teaching me about transferring the weight to the front I guess trail braking and also just by lifting on some corners.

I've been sort of trail braking in auto-x for a while but its something I need to practice on track. I was wondering should I just start to learn to left foot brake?

I mean I reckon I will want to eventually so why not just learn it straight off rather than re-learning later

do the fast guys here left foot brake?
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Sure. Go ahead. Most drivers find that unless they start learning left-foot braking very early, however, they are never quite as good at it as they are with their right foot. But it's a useful skill.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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just don't get confused between the brake pedal and the clutch pedal
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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^ I totally did that a couple times when I first started learning

Goodluck!
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by krnmike' date='Dec 28 2008, 06:55 PM
just don't get confused between the brake pedal and the clutch pedal
In one of my early races, I was using the left foot to drag the brakes a bit, to warm them up on the pace lap. Unfortunately, the inevitable brain fart followed immediately after the green flag, when I hit the brakes for a moment instead of the clutch to shift into third. I'm sure the guy right behind me pooped himself a bit!
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 124Spider' date='Dec 28 2008, 08:28 PM
In one of my early races, I was using the left foot to drag the brakes a bit, to warm them up on the pace lap. Unfortunately, the inevitable brain fart followed immediately after the green flag, when I hit the brakes for a moment instead of the clutch to shift into third. I'm sure the guy right behind me pooped himself a bit!
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison' date='Dec 28 2008, 10:08 PM
Sure. Go ahead. Most drivers find that unless they start learning left-foot braking very early, however, they are never quite as good at it as they are with their right foot. But it's a useful skill.
I always felt like that. I don't think my left foot is ever going to have the pedal control my right foot does. How much is there to gain from left foot braking anyhow?

To the OP - I don't recall any of the fast guys in my local auto-x region left foot braking or advising it. Not saying it isn't a way to go faster, just that it didn't seem to be practiced often.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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On auto-x it depend on the track layout. Some time a quick tap w/ left foot and right foot right back on gas is faster than lift right foot to brake and back to gas. I also use left foot tap on the brake to stop the oversteer while drive a gokart.

Never try that on the S in the track.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dan_uk' date='Dec 28 2008, 05:07 PM
Last track day I got some tips off an instructor he was teaching me about transferring the weight to the front I guess trail braking and also just by lifting on some corners.

I've been sort of trail braking in auto-x for a while but its something I need to practice on track. I was wondering should I just start to learn to left foot brake?
Make sure you're not setting out to learn left foot braking because an instructor told you to transfer more weight to the front end at corner entry. Left foot braking is one approach to transferring weight forwards, but it's not the only one, and trail braking (carrying some brake application during / after turn-in) isn't the same thing as left foot braking (same as regular braking, except done with the left foot and thus allowing quicker brake application and/or application simultaneous with throttle input).

A lot of fast drivers left foot brake; a lot of fast drivers don't. Here's one who did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEqOGejlrw

By the way, mastering heel-toe downshifts is critical. If yours are just ok, focus on mastering them before thinking about left foot braking.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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I spent a few hours playing GTR evolution on the brake pedal with my left foot, then i went out to my private test track with the s2000

I tried some autocross style tight 100 degree+ turns in 2nd gear
A lot of times in auto-x I am trying to keep the speed/rpm up and I brake too late, push into the turn then snap to oversteer when I switch from brake to throttle

I am not sure whether I am just more timid on the brakes using the left foot but I can get it so much tighter and smoother, it feels faster.
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