Spring rates for very bumpy AutoX?
#11
It could. If your running on a smaller lot with tighter elements you may be experiencing driver induced understeer. Most str competitors are running higher r rates. Generally about 8-900 front and 550-700 rear. We run 1000/850 on race tires with motors. Also are you sure you tires are not great cycles out. I would try one of the newer generation street tires such as re71r or rival s
#16
I wanted to give an update to this thread. I shortened the rear shocks and increased the preload on them. This gave me more bump travel and I set them so the wheels' static position relative to the fender was the same. I now have 3" of bump travel at the rear before hitting the bump stop, this slightly more than .5" more than I had previously. I also re-corner-balanced the car with 4 bars of fuel on the gauge.
How did it work? Well I had an event today and it drove beautifully! I maintained the tires at 32 psi and sprayed them on my last run. The car did what I wanted it to. It had no violent tendencies. I felt like I could spend more time focusing on my driving than just trying to keep the car on course. I made no modifications at all during the event other than tire maintenance. I was totally pleased. I ended up being about 2.5 seconds slower than the FTD. I'm going to do a few more events and make some driver mods now for a while and then I'll reevaluate the car's setup. I'm very happy with it right now though!
How did it work? Well I had an event today and it drove beautifully! I maintained the tires at 32 psi and sprayed them on my last run. The car did what I wanted it to. It had no violent tendencies. I felt like I could spend more time focusing on my driving than just trying to keep the car on course. I made no modifications at all during the event other than tire maintenance. I was totally pleased. I ended up being about 2.5 seconds slower than the FTD. I'm going to do a few more events and make some driver mods now for a while and then I'll reevaluate the car's setup. I'm very happy with it right now though!
#17
I have FA500's as well, 10k rates all around w/12k valving, and have similar complaints in regards to bumps and low speed compression dampening. The rear of the car seems very unsettling at higher speeds as well, not very confidence inspiring for spirited driving. Big bumps on the freeway, it feels like the rear of the car is going to come off the ground. Ive been messing with dampening and turned back the rear 2-3 clicks each side and feels "better", but still doesnt feel 100%. Ive been contemplating bumping to 12k swifts all around, but this thread makes me believe that the shocks might be the culprit. Or maybe i need to adjust preload settings to see how it behaves (currently setup to FA preload specs).
'the skinny' details of the car:
'00 gpw
FA500s 10k all around 12k valving
eibach FSB/06 rear sway bar
17x10 +55 wheels/255/40 square RS3's
-2.6 F -2.4 R camber
6.5 caster 0 Toe front/.20 total Toe rear
Did you try to contact Fortune about this? From my experience, their Customer Service is great.
'the skinny' details of the car:
'00 gpw
FA500s 10k all around 12k valving
eibach FSB/06 rear sway bar
17x10 +55 wheels/255/40 square RS3's
-2.6 F -2.4 R camber
6.5 caster 0 Toe front/.20 total Toe rear
Did you try to contact Fortune about this? From my experience, their Customer Service is great.
#18
Registered User
I wanted to give an update to this thread. I shortened the rear shocks and increased the preload on them. This gave me more bump travel and I set them so the wheels' static position relative to the fender was the same. I now have 3" of bump travel at the rear before hitting the bump stop, this slightly more than .5" more than I had previously. I also re-corner-balanced the car with 4 bars of fuel on the gauge.
How did it work? Well I had an event today and it drove beautifully! I maintained the tires at 32 psi and sprayed them on my last run. The car did what I wanted it to. It had no violent tendencies. I felt like I could spend more time focusing on my driving than just trying to keep the car on course. I made no modifications at all during the event other than tire maintenance. I was totally pleased. I ended up being about 2.5 seconds slower than the FTD. I'm going to do a few more events and make some driver mods now for a while and then I'll reevaluate the car's setup. I'm very happy with it right now though!
How did it work? Well I had an event today and it drove beautifully! I maintained the tires at 32 psi and sprayed them on my last run. The car did what I wanted it to. It had no violent tendencies. I felt like I could spend more time focusing on my driving than just trying to keep the car on course. I made no modifications at all during the event other than tire maintenance. I was totally pleased. I ended up being about 2.5 seconds slower than the FTD. I'm going to do a few more events and make some driver mods now for a while and then I'll reevaluate the car's setup. I'm very happy with it right now though!
Great fix on your car! Come out to Neosho on the 24th, or Lincoln on the 30-31 Midiv.
#19
I have FA500's as well, 10k rates all around w/12k valving, and have similar complaints in regards to bumps and low speed compression dampening. The rear of the car seems very unsettling at higher speeds as well, not very confidence inspiring for spirited driving. Big bumps on the freeway, it feels like the rear of the car is going to come off the ground. Ive been messing with dampening and turned back the rear 2-3 clicks each side and feels "better", but still doesnt feel 100%. Ive been contemplating bumping to 12k swifts all around, but this thread makes me believe that the shocks might be the culprit. Or maybe i need to adjust preload settings to see how it behaves (currently setup to FA preload specs).
'the skinny' details of the car:
'00 gpw
FA500s 10k all around 12k valving
eibach FSB/06 rear sway bar
17x10 +55 wheels/255/40 square RS3's
-2.6 F -2.4 R camber
6.5 caster 0 Toe front/.20 total Toe rear
Did you try to contact Fortune about this? From my experience, their Customer Service is great.
'the skinny' details of the car:
'00 gpw
FA500s 10k all around 12k valving
eibach FSB/06 rear sway bar
17x10 +55 wheels/255/40 square RS3's
-2.6 F -2.4 R camber
6.5 caster 0 Toe front/.20 total Toe rear
Did you try to contact Fortune about this? From my experience, their Customer Service is great.
#20
Originally Posted by freetors' timestamp='1468204723' post='24013389
I wanted to give an update to this thread. I shortened the rear shocks and increased the preload on them. This gave me more bump travel and I set them so the wheels' static position relative to the fender was the same. I now have 3" of bump travel at the rear before hitting the bump stop, this slightly more than .5" more than I had previously. I also re-corner-balanced the car with 4 bars of fuel on the gauge.
How did it work? Well I had an event today and it drove beautifully! I maintained the tires at 32 psi and sprayed them on my last run. The car did what I wanted it to. It had no violent tendencies. I felt like I could spend more time focusing on my driving than just trying to keep the car on course. I made no modifications at all during the event other than tire maintenance. I was totally pleased. I ended up being about 2.5 seconds slower than the FTD. I'm going to do a few more events and make some driver mods now for a while and then I'll reevaluate the car's setup. I'm very happy with it right now though!
How did it work? Well I had an event today and it drove beautifully! I maintained the tires at 32 psi and sprayed them on my last run. The car did what I wanted it to. It had no violent tendencies. I felt like I could spend more time focusing on my driving than just trying to keep the car on course. I made no modifications at all during the event other than tire maintenance. I was totally pleased. I ended up being about 2.5 seconds slower than the FTD. I'm going to do a few more events and make some driver mods now for a while and then I'll reevaluate the car's setup. I'm very happy with it right now though!
Great fix on your car! Come out to Neosho on the 24th, or Lincoln on the 30-31 Midiv.