sirbunz

Try this thread...

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/904...and-alignment/


Yes, too much camber gives the car uncomfortable feedback under braking, especially while turning. This also hurts the car's ability to launch for Pro Solo and on slow/tight corner exit where the car's weight is quickly shifted. Except for sweepers, I find less camber (-2-3 range) provides more precise feedback and balance with this car than when it was higher. You may find different results. There are a few in STR (specifically Guy Ankeny) that runs his camber around -4 f/r.

-Marc

762

From pure observation, it seems like most the people on track do not run the same big bars upfront that autocrossers do. That large difference in roll bias would require different types of alignment.

robinson

My wheels are missing.

SSR Type-C 17x9 +55 15lbs

H22A_CD5

The only issue I see is you potentially not being able to roll enough to keep from destorying fenders/quarters. you're in the same territory I am as far as offset is concerned; I have a non STR legal roll and still get some decent rub from time to time.

*from what I understand* using a narrower wheel exaggerates the softness of the sidewall, so you may lose some responsiveness in quick transitions. Possibly why you have problems with oversteer.

PS - Its ok, i still love you Mat

birdmanjeremy

I have a question about running 9" wheels for STR. My S2000 is pretty un-prepped (FSB and Alignment). I was wondering if I can run 9" wheels with 255's on the front on the stock suspension, or is stiffer suspension required to prevent rubbing on the fender liners? I'm looking into getting new wheels and tires for next year, but can't afford to get both wheels & suspension done.

marks_lude

My personal experience is that the suspension was required to clear the upper A-arms. The angle of the upper A-arm of a taller car with stock suspension brings it closer to the inner edge of the wheel hoop. Mine rubbed at full lock even with the car fairly low (but not as low as others here have stated).

I went 1/4" lower and the rubbing was very much reduced. I don't want to go much lower and risk my fenders now, unless I do springs that are stiffer yet.

If you don't mind never using full lock (not really needed for autocrossing) then you could do it with rolled fenders proper camber I'd bet.

birdmanjeremy

Rolling fenders isn't STR legal though, right?

I'd be keeping the stock rims for daily driving, so the 9" rims would just be for auto-x, therefore not having full lock would probably be ok.

I have heard before that having more negative camber helps with rubbing on the fenders as well. Is this the case? I don't yet have a camber kit, and am running right about -1.8 in the front right now.

IntegraR0064

It is legal as long as you don't change the outside profile of the fender. In other words roll the inner lip flat to the fender but don't push the whole fender out. And that's pretty much required to have anywhere close to the ride height people are running.

More negative camber tucks the wheel in so it helps with rubbing on the fenders, however you also can have problems on the other side with the a arms and the inner part of the fender and it will hurt that. It's all a balancing act.

I did suspension first so I can't speak as to whether it's possible to run the wheels or not. I would also suspect that it will probably work with a roll and without going to full lock.

josh7owens

If you run a high offset (+60-63) at stock hieght and stock shocks with a swaybar you won't rub. I ran that set-up for my first half a season of autocrossing.

Zeus2k

For what it's worth, I ran ap2 rear rims with stock suspension for almost an entire season with great success. I ate one fender tab but that was it. Ap2 rears are only 8.5 though.