That depends on how good of a driver you are and how in-tune with the car you are and how you drive the car and where you drive the car and....

Take some performance driving lessons and then you will be able to start answering these questions for yourself. Or at least you will start to be able to ask better questions and understand the answers better.

 

I know how to drive what I have I just don't know the next steps to make it act differently. I.e. I know what it is doing I just don't know how to make it act like I want

 

Might as well close this thread topic now. You have had UNANIMOUS advice, which you seem determined to ignore....

 

Thank you all very much for the advice. All I wanted to know was how to decrease oversteer and I was told in short kind of how to do that. But I was really trying more to defend myself with the last statement seeing as how everyone here thinks that because I don't know the proper mechanics of decreaseing oversteer that I obviously cannot drive which jsut isn't true.

 

Mike,

I think the true ratio (for MY00-MY03?) cars is closer to 25%, due to the difference in tread pattern between the front and rear OEM SO-2s.

 

I figured 240/205 = 1.17

I think 245 is a little too big, but it's a better replacement for the OEM S02s than 225.

But yeah, it can be argued either way. Depends on a lot of factors.

 

Yes it is. We're not trying to insult you. We've ALL been there. No matter how fast you think you are when you go canyon carving with your buddies, it's not until you start doing track days with a transponder on the car that you get to see your laptimes and find out you don't know how to drive yet. The fact that you say you want to decrease the "oversteer" of the car proves this. The S2000 will UNDERSTEER in stock trim. Your setup has different tire sizes, but I'm sure it still understeers. I run 225/245 tires with stock swaybars for the track and find it balances perfectly (although I have JRZ triple adjustables, so it's not exactly a stock suspension).

Bottom line is, if you think the car oversteers on stock sway bars, it's a dead giveaway that you just need to become more comfortable with the car and learn how to drive it properly. Properly driven, yes, the tail will come out when you want it to, but it's definitely not an oversteer car until you modify it.

Again, it's not an insult, we were all there at some point. We're just trying to save you from spending money modifying your car only to end up making it slower, more difficult to drive and more difficult to learn with.

 

[QUOTE=The Reverend,Jun 14 2005, 04:08 PM] The S2000 will UNDERSTEER in stock trim.

 

this is my big example as far as what prompted me to post this in the first place. Long turn that maintains radius: my 97 accord on Koni yellows and eibachs runs through it about 90 or so before it begins to be unable to hold the line. I put the S into the same curve turn in at about 85-88 and not to hard on the throttle. By the time the Apex hits am at 90 or so and any throttle above 25% will make the car FEEL like the outside rear is way toe out and the car is about to go spinning. I don't actually know for sure what will happen beyond that feeling becuase tail out is way easier to deal with at 45 than at 90. My feeling was that if my damn 4door accord can do it why can't my S. Maybe I really don't know the cars limit and that is just a feeling I am not used to and a track would be the best place to find out. I also beleive I should be faster through any turn than a civic on Ground Controls for god sakes.

the above comments are possible but I know I am not lifting off and I know what happens when you do. BTW the above scenario is with me never leaving my lane.

 

Driven properly at the limit, an S2000 should basically be in a full 4-wheel slide, unlike an accord which merely pushes the front wheels.

It doesn't sound like the car is doing anything wrong other than spooking you a bit. If you're convinced something is wrong anyway, get a wheel alignment. My guess is that will make the car a little easier for you to handle, but it still sounds like you just need to adapt to driving a rear drive car with weight on the back.