Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention my ultimate technique for dealing with a corner I took too fast -- go off the track straight, not trying to save it. (This is only an option when you have some runoff room.)

 

I know you. Loser


Looser of course. Like you like your hookers.

 

Just say to loose hookers

 

and blank say hello at the next event. maybe have one of the s2k regulars take you for a few laps in your car.


-Ry

 

Krazik,

I will definitely look for you guys next time.

Anyone attending Willow Springs "Big Track" on Jan 27th, 28th & 29th, 2006 ?

 

Sorry about the mislead information I just look back at my old alignment number I had done on the Miata from about 3 years ago I notice that I had quite a bit of rear toe out (that might explain the snap oversteer) before I redo the alignment a couple months later with rear toe in and it was okay after that. I thought that the way the Miata rear suspension works is that rear toe and camber will change under compression just like the S2000 but I just realize that the rear control arm bushings have different durometer rubber in the front of the rear control arm versus the rear position, the control arm in the Miata have the axis through the inner bushings is parallel to the axis through the outer bushings so there will not be any change to the rear upright with suspension bump. I learn something new so thanks for the clarification.

 

Try attending the Streets of Willow course around the 8th of January. That course has great turns where you can practice. I think it will be running CCW. I got a lot of great advice from the seasoned drivers when I went out this past event.

Gabe

 

In some cases the basics with FWD and RWD in completing a corner correctly are similar, where it gets very different for novices is when you 'lose' the corner. In FWD you plow and just lose corner speed, in the RWD format you can easily lose control of the car. In the case of the RSX-S, you can actually 'over-brake' and help swing the rear end around. Both of these cases are considering entering a corner too fast, but not outrageously so. The things that stay the same are slow in, fast out. You'll need better throttle control with the s2k though. If you unbalance the car, you will lose it, either through too much braking, too much throttle, too much steering, too abrupt throttle lift, etc. I personally prefer going a little hot in a corner in a RWD or MR car because you can correct without plowing straight off the track like FWD's have a tendency to do that aren't set up heavily favoring oversteer.

 

Looks like there may be two RSX graduates at Willow with SV in January. My son and I are already signed up. My RSX is for sale and I'm looking for an S2K. You may remember me from many SV events. I'm the old guy who drives the blue RSX in the white group. I had a chance to speak with some of you at SV's Buttonwillow event in Sept.-Oct. My son drives the white 97' Civic.

Although I'm both excited and anxious to get an S2K, I haven't owned a RWD car in more than 20 years and have never really driven one hard, much less tracked one. The transition from FWD to RWD does concern me a bit. I liked the RSX because it is very forgiving on the track but I feel that after 3 years with the car, I need to move on. This thread has been very helpful to me.

Given my situation, does it matter whether I get an AP1 or AP2? I understand they made some changes to the AP2 to keep the back end a bit more controlled. (Feel free to ignore this question. I'm not trying to turn this into an AP1 vs. AP2 thread. Just looking for some friendly advise.) Either way, I know I need to learn to drive RWD. Thanks for your comments. I Look forward to seeing you all in January. Thanks.

Tim

 

You can fix the AP1's backend w/ the bumpsteer kit we sell.

You'll love the s2k over the rsx.