For those tracking on 255 non staggered
Originally Posted by KGB,Feb 18 2009, 10:36 AM
Can anyone tell me if the 255 on 4 AP2 rears all around would rub on the front with stock suspension? Assuming 5mm spacers to get the wheels to fit. Thanks!
Originally Posted by bellwilliam,Feb 24 2009, 09:19 PM
they fit. and you don't need spacers.
Originally Posted by Squirtle,Feb 26 2009, 01:00 PM
What else have you added to the car to warrant more front cmber than the rear Emilio? Just wondering
The Tein S-Tech's are 300F/360R. With the sway bars I have now, I know I need to change the front to rear roll couple. I'll probably end up with a 32mm Cusco front bar and maybe S-Tech rear springs both front and rear. Trying to get the balance without lowering too much and maintaining decent street ride quality.
It amazes me the lengths Honda went to make sure the car would rotate freely. Virtually every aftermarket coilover, lowering spring and sway bar set mimics this rearward roll couple bias. I thought everyone knew something I didn't but the more I dig into it I see that rearward FRC bias is just, um wrong.
The Miata is also pretty close to 50/50 weight distribution. A typical dialed track Miata has 700lb fronts and 400 lb rears. Different motion ratio but with sway bars factored in you have an FRC (front roll couple) of about 64%.
Using the Miatas motion ratios (not quite the same stagger) and plugging in my S2000's parts, I get 32.1% FRC. Yikes, no wonder it's so loose.
Originally Posted by Antonov,Feb 26 2009, 01:44 PM
Motion ratios for the S are published and posted here (S2KI)
Why not just swap your springs?
Why not just swap your springs?
The only motion ratio's I saw posted here were of the napkin sketch variety. You know any more precise?
After 3 events, 3 alignments, some pyrometer readings, and general observations my alignment last year was:
Front:
-3.5* camber
+7* caster
0 toe
Rear:
-3.3* camber
+1/16" total-toe
Car was on 255 NT01's with KW V3, SPC adj. ball joints, ST FSB (stock rear bar), APR GTC300 wing.
This year I changed the shocks to AST customs with 700# springs all around and Saner FSB. I set camber to -3.5 all around and I'll adjust from there... once the season begins here.
Front:
-3.5* camber
+7* caster
0 toe
Rear:
-3.3* camber
+1/16" total-toe
Car was on 255 NT01's with KW V3, SPC adj. ball joints, ST FSB (stock rear bar), APR GTC300 wing.
This year I changed the shocks to AST customs with 700# springs all around and Saner FSB. I set camber to -3.5 all around and I'll adjust from there... once the season begins here.
Originally Posted by cuonice,Feb 26 2009, 02:36 PM
This year I changed the shocks to AST customs with 700# springs all around and Saner FSB. I set camber to -3.5 all around and I'll adjust from there... once the season begins here.
)? Keep us posted on how you like them.Dino



