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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by aCab,Feb 6 2011, 12:38 AM
in last months grassroots motorsports, the continental extremecontact dw out did the r1r and starspecs on tireracks wet course
Reason is DW is a romp rain tire. Not a street tire.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bellwilliam,Feb 6 2011, 05:17 PM
Reason is DW is a romp rain tire. Not a street tire.
what?

did you mean the DW is an r comp rain tire? Because it's definitely not. Might want to read the article again.

The DW isn't even in the same performance bracket with dry traction as the R1R and the Star Spec - it's not nearly as good, and def. not an r comp - but it does better in the wet. Interesting how that works.

To answer the question of what beat the DW - it was Conti's Race Rain Tire they used in the Grand-Am and now Rolex Series.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by aCab,Feb 6 2011, 12:37 AM
if star specs are too expensive...don't even get into to tracking the car, you will spend way more than the amount of the star specs if you get into it.

That being said, just get some tires and put them on the wheels and put them on the car and take it to the track. The shittier tire the better...it will teach you more in the long run, trust me.
Don't know if you're being a smart a$$ or serious. I'm just makes sense to me to save $80 and buy comparable tires and have extra towards brakes/fluids. I'm not so sure I'd be brave enough to push the limits of some of the tires that are being mentioned before I get some track time anyway, however driving fast on some "shittier" coopers doesn't sound like fun.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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^^^the point was that you shouldn't get sucked into worrying about what tires to run, especially for your first events. Tires can mask shitty driving and you'll end up learning nothing.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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thanks for clarifying, I'm a little

slooow
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Thanks for your input everyone, I think I'll go with R-S3s
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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WAIT! award78, if this is your first track day, I highly recommend NOT using performance tires. Just get decent pads and brake fluid.

The biggest misconception about having a first track day is that you need to get your car "track-prepped." This is hugely incorrect. Those sway bars, suspension kits, tires, engine mods...rarely would a first timer understand the merits of having each without first having a stock experience.

Drive your car in as standard a form to you as possible, learn how to manage tire grip on commonplace tires, then tune your car according to your observations. In the end, you may realize that you didn't need those sway bars, and that the popular mods didn't suit you as a driver best.

Don't listen to the people who say 255s all around, use R-S3s, or get that rear sway bar stiffer. You may actually want better stability. Tune to your needs to make the car rotate more or less. Then the speed will follow.

Remember: Charles Ng got a 2:03 in a stock S2000 at Buttonwillow. It's all about the driver. And remember, grippy tires/R-comps hide mistakes!

Have fun and stay safe out there!
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by smokenrowboy,Feb 7 2011, 11:53 PM
Remember: Charles Ng got a 2:03 in a stock S2000 at Buttonwillow. It's all about the driver. And remember, grippy tires/R-comps hide mistakes!
I think Charles Ng was also running 255's Federals all the way around...
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