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Old 04-28-2013, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebring AP1 View Post
Originally Posted by 99SH' timestamp='1367171817' post='22504984
One more to add to the list. These are my street wheels, fits with tons of clearance

WedsSport TC105N 17x9 +35
+49 doesnt work?
Looking at the clearance I have now, I can't see how the +49 would fit.
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Thanks!
Next track day is in about a month's time. Not a very technical track but apparently hard on the brakes. I'll give some feedback as I go along

CR wing is def better than nothing but not as effective as a proper GT wing that's for sure.

As for a list of wheels, there's the original Essex BBk thread floating about with some suggestions?
Went back and looked at that thread, this is what I saw confirmed by S2KI members.

Volk racing CE28 17x9.5 +40
949 Racing 17x9 +48
Enkei RPF-1's 17X8 +45
Volk CE28N 17x8.5 +30
Volk TE37 17x9 +22
BBS LM 18x9 +42
Volk CE28 17x10 +44
Enkei NT03M 17x9.5+44/38
And we can make you a custom set of CCW 18 x 9.5 to 10.5 to fit as well
Awesome, time to start saving my lunch money
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 99SH View Post
Originally Posted by Sebring AP1' timestamp='1367181663' post='22505203
[quote name='99SH' timestamp='1367171817' post='22504984']
One more to add to the list. These are my street wheels, fits with tons of clearance

WedsSport TC105N 17x9 +35
+49 doesnt work?
Looking at the clearance I have now, I can't see how the +49 would fit.
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+49 is FF face. It clears the massive J's racing BBK. Why wouldn't it clear this one?

If it doesn't then that sucks. Was looking at this for next mod. Guess not.
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Originally Posted by Sebring AP1 View Post
+49 is FF face. It clears the massive J's racing BBK. Why wouldn't it clear this one?

If it doesn't then that sucks. Was looking at this for next mod. Guess not.

Simple. This AP Racing kit is using a near stock size rotor. This places the caliper closer to the hub of the wheel compared to other BBK kits which are much larger in diameter and further out.

Take a look at this Stoptech kit compared to the Essex kit. Dark gray is the AP Racing kit, vs the yellow highlight the Stoptech
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Originally Posted by Sebring AP1 View Post
Originally Posted by 99SH' timestamp='1367183328' post='22505243
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[quote name='99SH' timestamp='1367171817' post='22504984']
One more to add to the list. These are my street wheels, fits with tons of clearance

WedsSport TC105N 17x9 +35
+49 doesnt work?
Looking at the clearance I have now, I can't see how the +49 would fit.
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+49 is FF face. It clears the massive J's racing BBK. Why wouldn't it clear this one?

If it doesn't then that sucks. Was looking at this for next mod. Guess not.
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Just to double check, can you check your wheels with the template?

99SH, you have tracked the kit the longest, how are they holding up now?
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99SH, you have tracked the kit the longest, how are they holding up now?
Brakes are running strong and long. The pad life is amazing, I really like the thicker pads these calipers have to offer. My latest combination is DSUNO front and DS3000 rear and feel the car is very well balanced. The initial bite is very smooth and stays consistent throughout the day.

For the guy above wanting to run on 17x9+49 wheels, I recommend getting spacers. You have a longs way to go before you contact the fender. This kit is much deserved! I'm running +15mm spacers on my front track wheels to make it work.

The heat-spotting issue the original poster noted may be due to uneven pad deposits when switching between street & track pads. What I do is run Hawk blue pads to clean up the rotor. It only takes a couple miles and a few mild stops to clean up the rotor surface to a nice raw aluminum shine. The Hawk blues are a very abrasive pad when cold and scuff up the rotors very effectively. I do this prior to all my trackdays and always lay down a nice clean pad layer when running the track pads.

My next task is improving the time it takes to swap pads. I recently bought the Girodisc brake pad spreader which makes the job much easier. I need to get this down to nascar pit speeds
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Originally Posted by 99SH View Post
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99SH, you have tracked the kit the longest, how are they holding up now?
Brakes are running strong and long. The pad life is amazing, I really like the thicker pads these calipers have to offer. My latest combination is DSUNO front and DS3000 rear and feel the car is very well balanced. The initial bite is very smooth and stays consistent throughout the day.

For the guy above wanting to run on 17x9+49 wheels, I recommend getting spacers. You have a longs way to go before you contact the fender. This kit is much deserved! I'm running +15mm spacers on my front track wheels to make it work.

The heat-spotting issue the original poster noted may be due to uneven pad deposits when switching between street & track pads. What I do is run Hawk blue pads to clean up the rotor. It only takes a couple miles and a few mild stops to clean up the rotor surface to a nice raw aluminum shine. The Hawk blues are a very abrasive pad when cold and scuff up the rotors very effectively. I do this prior to all my trackdays and always lay down a nice clean pad layer when running the track pads.

My next task is improving the time it takes to swap pads. I recently bought the Girodisc brake pad spreader which makes the job much easier. I need to get this down to nascar pit speeds
99SH, you think there is enough of a compound difference between the DS2500 and DSUNO to cause the heat spotting?
Thank you for the advice on the cleaning the rotor to a STEEL shine..
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Originally Posted by Urge View Post
99SH, you think there is enough of a compound difference between the DS2500 and DSUNO to cause the heat spotting?
Thank you for the advice on the cleaning the rotor to a STEEL shine..
Steel...yes, thank you

I did get uneven pad deposits and slight smearing of the old transfer layer when I switched from the DS2500 to DSUNOs. Ever since I've been cleaning with the Hawk blues, it's been nice and smooth. I don't know if the compound difference is enough, but it's good insurance I'd like to take.
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Originally Posted by 99SH View Post
My next task is improving the time it takes to swap pads. I recently bought the Girodisc brake pad spreader which makes the job much easier. I need to get this down to nascar pit speeds
this might be a less expensive alternative to a caliper piston spreader ...

https://www.mamotorworks.com/corvett...-114-7794.html

i am saving to get the essex kit as well, but i am also currently using stock wheels and am on a budget, so would need to buy wheels as well :/ . more heatsink !! always thought honda went a bit light overall on braking systems.
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this might be a less expensive alternative to a caliper piston spreader ...

https://www.mamotorworks.com/corvett...-114-7794.html
The AP Caliper have 4 pistons. Those spreaders won't work too well. Need to compress both pairs at the same time; otherwise one piston will stick out while you're compressing the other one.

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