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When do springs bind?

Old Jun 26, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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He all, I'm trying out different spring rates on my STR setup. I have two friends that are kindly letting me borrow their extra spring sets but there's a small difference in the rear set. I currently run Moton Club sports with Hyperco springs, 2.25" inner diameter on all 4 corners with Eibach helper springs. The current rear set is 700 lbs with a length of 7". The spring set I'm borrowing is a pair of Eibach, 2.25" ID, 550 lbs at a 6" length. I'm wanting to know around what length and spring rate would the coil springs start to bind against each other. I figured the lower I go in spring rate the more important free spring length becomes in regards to not binding. Should it be okay testing the 6" spring with a 550 lbs rate on Moton club sports?

As for reference I'm currently running 6" springs in the front at 850 lbs. I will be reducing the front springs down to 750 lbs but keeping the 6" length as any longer and the lower perch would hit the upper control arm.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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It's going to be different per brand but you can use this for a reference.

http://eibach.com/eibach/img/ers-catalog-2004.pdf
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ndogg
It's going to be different per brand but you can use this for a reference.

http://eibach.com/eibach/img/ers-catalog-2004.pdf
Awesome, thanks for the catalog link. I found the numbers I needed and it looks like I'll be fine. For those viewing down the road the Eibach sheet says to look at the "Sc" measurement for deflection/travel available until the spring binds.

length.ID.rate
0700.225.0700 :: 3.53 inches deflection
0600.225.0550 :: 3.38 inches deflection

0.15 inches (~ 4mm) of less travel going from 750 lbs to 550 lbs and 7" to 6" free length.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 07:19 AM
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After realizing the 4mm difference isn't the real comparison I needed I calculated the force it takes to reach binding on each spring.

Force = k * (D_standing - D_deflected)

length.ID.rate
0700.225.0700 :: 3.53 inches deflection
0600.225.0550 :: 3.38 inches deflection

700 lbs/in * (3.53 in) = 2471 lbs
550 lbs/in * (3.38 in) = 1859 lbs

0700.225.0550 :: 3.65 inches deflection
550 lbs/in * (3.65 in) = 2007.5 lbs (for a 550 lbs, 7" spring)
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