ap1 vs 2005 g35 coupe
04-27-2011, 02:00 PM
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lol you guys are losing to g35's seriously???
I think i have raced like... jees... 8 or more of em and none stood a chance it was always at least 2 cars by the top of 4th. Albeit 5 cars is a lil ridiculous but maybe he was babydicking his shifts? Those cars are pushing over 3,500 lbs...
I have a SS MY04 w/ modded stock box,filter, full 70mm single, and about a 100lbs of weight reduction, including a CF hardtop w/ soft top gut.
Even so when i was bone stock they were NEVER an issue.
Be safe out there.
I think i have raced like... jees... 8 or more of em and none stood a chance it was always at least 2 cars by the top of 4th. Albeit 5 cars is a lil ridiculous but maybe he was babydicking his shifts? Those cars are pushing over 3,500 lbs...
I have a SS MY04 w/ modded stock box,filter, full 70mm single, and about a 100lbs of weight reduction, including a CF hardtop w/ soft top gut.
Even so when i was bone stock they were NEVER an issue.
Be safe out there.
04-27-2011, 02:02 PM
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so obviously we have the weight advantage, it really comes down to who can shift quicker when both cars are modded.
when i raced him, he could have shut down really early on all 3 runs cause i pulled so fast on him. who knows, maybe my car is just a freak.
when i raced him, he could have shut down really early on all 3 runs cause i pulled so fast on him. who knows, maybe my car is just a freak.
04-27-2011, 02:09 PM
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Torque, also called moment or moment of force (see the terminology below), is the tendency of a force to rotate an object about an axis,[1] fulcrum, or pivot. Just as a force is a push or a pull, a torque can be thought of as a twist.
Loosely speaking, torque is a measure of the turning force on an object such as a bolt or a flywheel. For example, pushing or pulling the handle of a wrench connected to a nut or bolt produces a torque (turning force) that loosens or tightens the nut or bolt
Loosely speaking, torque is a measure of the turning force on an object such as a bolt or a flywheel. For example, pushing or pulling the handle of a wrench connected to a nut or bolt produces a torque (turning force) that loosens or tightens the nut or bolt
I've raced a few. uphill it's pretty even with a stock car and intake/exhaust on a flat especially with a good launch the s2000 does very well. With 4.77's now it wouldnt be much of a contest.
04-27-2011, 04:35 PM
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if by sure it is you mean like 8 car lengths in the 1/4 mile then I guess it's close - that extra half second faster is 146 feet per second @ 100 mph so 75 feet at least
04-29-2011, 05:56 PM
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^ Really? Do you honestly think that torque is the only thing that matters? there is coefficient of drag, there is the weight of the driver, there is the grip of the wheels, the rotational weight of the wheels/ internals, I could go on but would rather not. Come on, use your head.
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Against a 05-06 you should pull 1-2 car lengths from a 40 roll, from what I have experienced closer to 1. Above 100 they will creep by.
Up hill they will pull barely.
Both trap around the same speed. Usually it's a drivers race under random circumstances like this but in a controlled environment where apes aren't behind the wheel the above applies after repeated runs.
Up hill they will pull barely.
Both trap around the same speed. Usually it's a drivers race under random circumstances like this but in a controlled environment where apes aren't behind the wheel the above applies after repeated runs.
04-30-2011, 11:52 AM
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Owned and raced both cars for years. I had an '04 and an '05 G35 coupe (and currently drive a '09 G37) all 6-speed manual. And also had an Ap1 S2K. So I think I can shine some light for those who don't already know.
First things first. My '04 'sport' G35 with 280chp was actually quicker than my '05 (REV-UP) with 298chp. I had them both at the same time for about 3 weeks and actually had a buddy of mine race me, and then switch cars to see the differences. And the '04 would always just inch away the whole time. From a 40mph roll till about 110mph the 2004 would end up about a car and a half in front, despite having less HP.
I took both to the track to run for times and traps, and from a dead stop the '04 was quicker. (all stock)
- 13.89@101.*mph with a 2.0 sixty foot was my personal best for the '04
- 14.02@100.*mph, with a 2.0 sixty for the 2005.
(13.7@103+ for my G37-s if you cared to ask)
My best in the S2000 when it was stock was 13.7*@101.* with a 1.9 sixty foot.
In my experience (quite a lot with these cars) the S2000 will always pull down low if he has a capable driver. From 0-110mph the S2000 will beat either of those G's probably 95/100 times. But it's after that where the VQ motors really wake up and come to life lugging around all that weight. Their top end pick-up is greater then their 100 or 101mph trap speed would indicate. But on the street that really doesn't help you - as you probably should never see those speeds. (pot-kettle - yeah I know
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I'm such a fan of the S2000's that I took one for the team a while back to show how much quicker the S2K is 0-110mph. Another friend of mine (member here) had an AP2 with just an intake and exhaust and I asked him to run my G on tape to show the differences. He happily obliged, and then proceeded to give me an ass kicking that looked like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rgMXthOc4
First things first. My '04 'sport' G35 with 280chp was actually quicker than my '05 (REV-UP) with 298chp. I had them both at the same time for about 3 weeks and actually had a buddy of mine race me, and then switch cars to see the differences. And the '04 would always just inch away the whole time. From a 40mph roll till about 110mph the 2004 would end up about a car and a half in front, despite having less HP.
I took both to the track to run for times and traps, and from a dead stop the '04 was quicker. (all stock)
- 13.89@101.*mph with a 2.0 sixty foot was my personal best for the '04
- 14.02@100.*mph, with a 2.0 sixty for the 2005.
(13.7@103+ for my G37-s if you cared to ask)
My best in the S2000 when it was stock was 13.7*@101.* with a 1.9 sixty foot.
In my experience (quite a lot with these cars) the S2000 will always pull down low if he has a capable driver. From 0-110mph the S2000 will beat either of those G's probably 95/100 times. But it's after that where the VQ motors really wake up and come to life lugging around all that weight. Their top end pick-up is greater then their 100 or 101mph trap speed would indicate. But on the street that really doesn't help you - as you probably should never see those speeds. (pot-kettle - yeah I know
)I'm such a fan of the S2000's that I took one for the team a while back to show how much quicker the S2K is 0-110mph. Another friend of mine (member here) had an AP2 with just an intake and exhaust and I asked him to run my G on tape to show the differences. He happily obliged, and then proceeded to give me an ass kicking that looked like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rgMXthOc4