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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Planets' date='Mar 25 2007, 05:32 PM
You're comparing a sporty luxury car to a boy racer. Somehow I don't imagine many people cross shopping the two. And judging from the responses in this thread, you're the only person that cares about the performance-per-dollar argument between the two. Reminds me of when the SRT4 guys used to come on here and tell us how their cars would go faster than the S for cheaper.... trust me, if going fast was all that mattered to us, we would have all already bought SRT4's or Mustangs or something like that.
i understand where s2kguy's coming from, it was an automatic defensive recoil for me too when i first found out what the 335i's are doing with just a tune

but it's a straight6 twin turbo, iirc the only one to come out after the 2jz. the stock snails are tiny, but technology has advanced since 1993.

and you're right, the fact that these cars are so different makes any comparison that's not in a straightline acceleration irrelevant, imho.
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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[quote name='S2Kguy' date='Mar 25 2007, 04:24 PM']
It's possible to get a stripped 335i, but highly improbable.
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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"i mainly made this video because a bunch of idiots around my area with poorly modded Evo's are getting face raped by tuned 335i's, which isn't consistent with the numbers on paper, espeically for the IX's. my brain was about to explode because all those videos were basically challenging the definition of trap speeds and power to weight ratios. with these videos now i can sleep better at night. "

How come you didn't hit me up man? I want some fun with a 355i. Fusion, i'll be in your area tomorrow. I'll be doing some runs with another evo 9 with similar set up as me. Let me know if you want to come along.
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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haha vien, YGPM
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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[quote name='S2Kguy' date='Mar 25 2007, 04:24 PM']
It's possible to get a stripped 335i, but highly improbable.
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fusionchickenleg' date='Mar 25 2007, 05:27 PM

the Evo is a raw driving machine, designed to go fast around road courses in any terrain, while at the same time having a powerplant that can make power for cheap, relatively speaking. but then you get a car with a bumpy and loud ride.

the 335i on the other hand, is a comfortable and luxurious highway cruiser (or missile). having no LSD it's pretty clear what BMW's current intent with the car is, IMHO.
+1, the best statement on this thread.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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Umm, okay. You forget that for the difference in price between the evo and 335 your actually getting a luxurious german car thats far more sophisticated than a tarted up lancer. Being that they are priced so closely, I would never in a million years pic a mitsu over a 335 given the fact that the new beemer may eclipse (no pun intended) the mitsubishi in tuning potential. Your also forgetting the fact that the 335 has BALLER status, whereas the evo has junior college student status.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 02:21 AM
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Yeah the 335 is already showing tuning potential. I posted a link in the last 335 thread we had, but Vishnu's stage 1 (catback and ecu) had the car at 355whp, 405wtq I believe it was, at 12psi. Not bad imo.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Planets' date='Mar 26 2007, 02:21 AM
Yeah the 335 is already showing tuning potential. I posted a link in the last 335 thread we had, but Vishnu's stage 1 (catback and ecu) had the car at 355whp, 405wtq I believe it was, at 12psi. Not bad imo.
I am not really a BMW fan, BUT... I love what they've done with the car! With some money you could get it even way faster than the new M3 that's coming out and still pay $10-15k less.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Planets' date='Mar 25 2007, 05:32 PM
1. You're comparing a sporty luxury car to a boy racer.
2. And judging from the responses in this thread, you're the only person that cares about the performance-per-dollar argument between the two.
3. Reminds me of when the SRT4 guys used to come on here and tell us how their cars would go faster than the S for cheaper.... trust me, if going fast was all that mattered to us, we would have all already bought SRT4's or Mustangs or something like that.
1. No I'm not, I'm comparing performance-per-dollar in a performance thread.
2. The people buying the car for its performance rather than it's status care, but this is a status board, so the responses are minimal.
3. I never compared the cars themselves, only their performance, again, in a performance thread. Reading comprehension > you.

Originally Posted by mayanh8' date='Mar 25 2007, 06:54 PM
1. Dealers don't order 335i's to their own specs, they order exactly what the customer tells them to order.
2. Also, whether it has options or not has no bearing on when the allocation goes into production.
3. Like everyone else that has responded to you, you are comparing a Mitsubishi rally car to a BMW sport-luxury vehicle.
4. What if I said I have a Honda CBR that I bought for $11,299...
1. No one said they did, I merely pointed out that different regions get different cars, and almost none are actually made-to-order, or stripped models. The car business just doesn't work that way, even for cars such as the Viper. Much more often than not, you're merely "speaking for" a vehicle that is already slated to be made, hence the wait.
2. Allocation goes into production? Now you're just talking out of your ass. I've sold cars for 3 dealerships, how many have you sold for? I thought so.
3. No, I'm not, I'm comparing performance-per-dollar in a performance thread. Again, reading comprehension > you.
4. Why would you do that? A CBR isn't even a car. Look, you may not like performance-per-dollar comparisons, and that's fine, but they exist nonetheless, and are 100% valid in a performance thread, Christ, it's not like I'm comparing the build quality.

Originally Posted by 20aeman' date='Mar 26 2007, 01:13 AM
1. Being that they are priced so closely, I would never in a million years pic a mitsu over a 335...
2. ...given the fact that the new beemer may eclipse (no pun intended) the mitsubishi in tuning potential.
1. You would if you valued absolute performance over "baller status".
2. Now you're just being silly. A fact that something may? Do us all a favor, go back to college, please.
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