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From: Houston
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KleeftonSi
[B]Yeah ok...
You're gonna need an upgraded turbo if you want to beat the best hybrids. And if they're turboed hybrids, you're going to need NOS too. heh. Hybrids are light, it takes less hp to make them fast.
[B]Yeah ok...
You're gonna need an upgraded turbo if you want to beat the best hybrids. And if they're turboed hybrids, you're going to need NOS too. heh. Hybrids are light, it takes less hp to make them fast.
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From: Alpharetta, Ga/Auburn, Al
Originally posted by osu s2k
are those gti's that fast, i know the chip can make a considerable difference however, i thought gts weighed well over 2700#
are those gti's that fast, i know the chip can make a considerable difference however, i thought gts weighed well over 2700#
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From: You wish
Yah, I just sat in on the tuning of a 2.0 liter Turbo Civic yesterday. At 8 psi on pump gas it put down 320 hp to the wheels - and outside of the wheels, mild drop and exhaust, it looks and sounds stock till he punches it. Can't really get it hooked on street tires till mid 3rd gear. On drag radials its a monster. 2500 lbs with driver, 320 to the wheels and a fat torque curve.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by KleeftonSi
[B]Yeah ok...
You're gonna need an upgraded turbo if you want to beat the best hybrids. And if they're turboed hybrids, you're going to need NOS too. heh. Hybrids are light, it takes less hp to make them fast.
UL
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KleeftonSi
[B]Yeah ok...
You're gonna need an upgraded turbo if you want to beat the best hybrids. And if they're turboed hybrids, you're going to need NOS too. heh. Hybrids are light, it takes less hp to make them fast.
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From: Irvine
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KleeftonSi
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Not from my experience. The b18c1 hatch is considerably faster than the B16s.
The GSR motor puts out 10 more hp than the B16a2. With boltons that difference grows even more, as the larger displacement allows for more gains.
[B]
Not from my experience. The b18c1 hatch is considerably faster than the B16s.
The GSR motor puts out 10 more hp than the B16a2. With boltons that difference grows even more, as the larger displacement allows for more gains.
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From: queens village
Originally posted by integrate
Oh...ok. My bad
[QUOTE]I guess it just has to do with the motor or how the hybrid was built.
I'm talking about the B16a SiR2 that has 170HP and only 10 lbs/ft less than the GSR.
[QUOTE]I guess it just has to do with the motor or how the hybrid was built.
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From: Portland
My .02, if you can get a 1.8T GTI with minor mods to run low 14s to high 13s and still have full interior and look stock, I think that would be a much better set-up than a gutted/motor swapped hatch....once you do the motor swap (for a simple GSR/B16A2 conversion), it would seem that one could have bought the 1.8T for the same cash it took for the swap and have a bit more to spend for the chip and got the same times...I guess that is considering having to pay for the labor involved in the swap.
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From: queens village
Originally posted by bryons2000
My .02, if you can get a 1.8T GTI with minor mods to run low 14s to high 13s and still have full interior and look stock, I think that would be a much better set-up than a gutted/motor swapped hatch....once you do the motor swap (for a simple GSR/B16A2 conversion), it would seem that one could have bought the 1.8T for the same cash it took for the swap and have a bit more to spend for the chip and got the same times...I guess that is considering having to pay for the labor involved in the swap.
My .02, if you can get a 1.8T GTI with minor mods to run low 14s to high 13s and still have full interior and look stock, I think that would be a much better set-up than a gutted/motor swapped hatch....once you do the motor swap (for a simple GSR/B16A2 conversion), it would seem that one could have bought the 1.8T for the same cash it took for the swap and have a bit more to spend for the chip and got the same times...I guess that is considering having to pay for the labor involved in the swap.
But if you think it will take less money to own a chipped 1.8T as opposed to your regular hybrid hatch, you've got some rethinking to do.
A good condition 95' CX hatch can be had for about 4000 dollars, 2500 dollars in not so great condition.
GSR motor and tranny 3500 dollars
JUN 3 CAMS, valvetrain and and reprogrammed ECU: $3500
Swap labor and costs: 1800.
That car will run very low 13s no prob with no weight reduction.
Total: $12800 at the most, far below the cost of a stock 1.8T.
Let's get back to earth now.