At first gear, its a bit tough time it perfectly since I dont want the engine to cut off so I shift right before it hits redline..2 and on, I shift evertime it blinks once in redline. Is that the proper way to do it. I never hit the rev limeter in any of my runs

 

I'm afraid you have missed the whole point that I tried to make. It is easy to see why your times never changed. Can't you? 4.77s can gain you up to 1/2 second in a 1/4 mile, BUT because you have to put in an extra shift, you GAINED that 1/2 second back. If you can shift very fast (and I'm not going into the semantics of how you can do this as this is driver understanding and driver limited), you can overcome this disadvantage, get up even more speed and quite possibly need to go into 5th before you finish the 1/4. Sorry, but I can't put it in any other way to help you understand this.
It's unfortunate that you got 4.77s for 1/4 mile duty. It's more for blasting around on the streets and for some track layouts.

 

I Understand what you are saying regarding the extra shift, but on a 4.56 car or even stock car compared to a 4.77 car, the 4.77 car can hit 100 until it has to shift to 5th gear. So the extra shift should have nothing to do with this example since the max mph I hit was 98. If I hit 103, then I understand how the extra shift at 100 could have slowed me down.

I still like the effects on the quarter mile and I love the fact I dont have to downshift most of the time anymore. But I just expected a greater result and mph gain in the quarter-mile.

 

Sounds right.
But during the shift try to quickly shift and engage the clutch as fast as possible and benchmark yourself by observing when in the Rpms you engage, and work from there.

The best shift is the ones that engage as quickly as possible without sacrifice much drop in revs so that you continue to deliver power to the wheels.

When you engage the clutch on shift, hopefully you time your trottle input correctly to make the accelleration curve raise up without spiking down as a result of not giving it proper gas during power shifting. Its a combo or knowing how well your clutch is catching and how much gas to give.

 

Nope, you are still not understanding the overall concept and this thing is just going around in circles. I'm running out of ways to explain it to you. This will be my last attempt.

Read your statement that I just quoted. Notice how you use the term "I"? You are comparing what an S2000 can do by looking at the numbers generated off the gear calculator WITH what you can do. Just because you can only get up to a max of 98 mph doesn't mean that, in someone else's hands, the car won't be going much faster at that same point.

 

The best way I can testify for the benefits of 4.77 gears from my experience with 4.56 is it makes the S2000 more of a drivers car. Not particularly a quarter mile car still.

Zip zapping in and out of corners providing way more torque control for experienced enthusiusts behind the wheel to slow down and accellerate harder all from the benefits of having the revs travel quicker through the power band.

I think if you can improve on your shifting, you will see results on the quarter mile in any S2000 stock or geared. If you are a consistent quick shifter like Wisconson, then moving to gears will quickly show results. But if you are still learning to shift, gears may not prove to deliver that result you desire immediately in quarter mile timing, but in overall driving, it's very noticable.

I personally would LOVE 4.77 gears, but couldn't do it because of the highway driving. 4.56s are great.

 

shifting is easily one of the biggest losses in time for a driver in the 1/4 mile. .5 seconds is nothing for a shift, much less for the 4 or 5 you have to make.


people who run 13.6 with a 2.3 60' with gears are shifting fast. have you ever seen my shifting video? look in my sig. if you're not shifting as fast as that, then you're not shifting fast enough.


you're trying to blame your car, and that simply isn't the problem.

 

a stock S2k traps about 101-102 at best. 98 is weak. if you have a good 60' time and a 98mph trap, then you're shifting too slow.

 

what was the temperature and humidity? this can also have a big effect, however, with that trap speed, it indicates your shifting speed is the problem.

 

this statement confirms my suspicions. again, look at my shifting video.

a good shifter will do this. first, you actually start to pull the shifter out of gear before the clutch is even disengaged. and when you do disengage the clutch, it never goes all the way to the floor. only enough to get you into the next gear. a good shifter will know how to do this instinctively.


you missed xviper's point. since there is an extra shift, if you're taking .4-.5 seconds to shift, then you've lost any advantage the gears gave you.