I've been considering getting 4 point harnesses for my stook for awhile. Does anyone recommend a specific brand or installation method for our car? I've seen a pic of the tied to the rollbars and I don't like that. Hoping there is another alternative.

Wesmaster

 

http://www.s2000online.com/forums/showthre...&threadid=15409

 

Doesn't look like you could do this with the stock rollbars still installed.

Wesmaster

 

I wouldn't add a harness without adding a roll bar that clears your head.

Many tracks won't allow such a setup, and for pretty good reason: in the event of a roll over, the harness may prevent you from 'ducking' or whatever you call it when you're upside down.

Ted

 

Some manufacturers recommend bolting the hardware for the over-the-shoulder belts to the floor behind the seat; the lap portion could use the stock belt mounting points or mount next to the seats. However, there's a more important question: Why do you want four-point belts? If you're going to use them on the street or for autocrossing or drivers' schools, I'd suggest you rethink your desire to install them unless you add a real rollbar too.

Here's the problem: If you roll your car and you're wearing competition belts, your head could be the first thing to hit the ground. If you roll the car when you're wearing the stock lap-and-shoulder combination, you can at least lean over to the center of the car to stay under the level of the stock rollbars and windshield when the car lands upside-down.

I know this probably sounds a little overdramatic and like one of those things that will never happen to you, but I have seen it happen twice on autocross courses. In one case, the car went over, the windshield totally collapsed and the car slid flat on its hood, doors and trunk lid until it stopped. The driver had the presence of mind to lean over the center console as he was going over

 

I was thinking that 4 point harnesses would keep me from seperating from the seat if flipped. I'm tall, 6'0" but I sit low, my head is below the rollbars, but not but by 2-3 inches (never actually looked at myself in the car, could be more). I assumed that the stock belts would be more likely to let my body come away from the seat if flipped...is this not true? That is the only reason I wanted to get 4 point harnesses.

Wesmaster

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wesmaster
[B]I was thinking that 4 point harnesses would keep me from seperating from the seat if flipped.

 

I'm pretty sure this is a huge no-no due to the potential for spine compression.