Aggressive downshifting
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Originally Posted by lopez14' timestamp='1358388311' post='22272219
Idk maybe you guys are right and I'm just confusing lol
You will see that your engine internals want to be agressive aswel and eventually fly around.
Best results can be found from 100+ mph!
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Originally Posted by s2000maniac' timestamp='1358386388' post='22272166
you should never downshift to first...
You do realize you can do in excess of 40mph in first gear? I generally don't feel the need to downshift to first going anywhere over 20mph, but you can safely go more if you are smooth and deliberate, but there usually is no need unless there is that one damn tight corner you bog out of at the racetrack. A good tune usually resolves that issue though.
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If you are auto-Xing, it may require downshifting in to 1st. 1st gear has a very aggressive "blocker ring" which makes it more difficult to engage on a moving downshift from higher speeds. It can be done and it usually involves a double clutch and revving the bejesus out of it. ... At lower speeds, it is possible to downshift to 1st by just revving hard to match. It's possible to beat the blocker ring if done a certain way. However, unless you're on the track, why bother?
I think it was answered early on, but if you are looking to downshift for the purpose of getting to the most effective WOT acceleration, you want to downshift so you are right at the 6k mark and can take full advantage of the aggressive cam phasing. If you can't get right to 6k, you're better off over it than under it, especially with the F20.
It is important to know the max speeds you can downshift at when breaking.
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Originally Posted by S2KIrishman' timestamp='1358387455' post='22272191
no, you should never downshift into first unless youre at a completely stop or barely rolling...good way to f@#k up your transmission
i know how to operate my clutch, gas, and trans effectively...you can downshift into first while going faster than 10 mph all you want, i on the other hand will stick to 2nd...and i still wont have a problem
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky' timestamp='1358408388' post='22272647
[quote name='S2KIrishman' timestamp='1358387455' post='22272191']
no, you should never downshift into first unless youre at a completely stop or barely rolling...good way to f@#k up your transmission
no, you should never downshift into first unless youre at a completely stop or barely rolling...good way to f@#k up your transmission
i know how to operate my clutch, gas, and trans effectively...you can downshift into first while going faster than 10 mph all you want, i on the other hand will stick to 2nd...and i still wont have a problem
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Except bogging your motor
This isn't your grandfathers pick up truck lol. You can actually rev match with this car. They called that driving skill and using your equipment effectively.
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I've been on many 60 second courses where I've had to downshift to first at least 4 times. Autocrossed the car heavily for 8 years. Transmission shifts like new and clutch is original. Not much need to do it any other time.
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