Hey guys, let's not turn this thread into another of car vs. driver debates.

Fastlane made it pretty clear that he know he pushed the limit and that he was sharing his experience to remind everyone that just because it feels like we drive on rails, we don't...ie, be careful!

 

2) The driver said that is was 46 degrees cooler than normal.





I ment the temprature was 46 degrees, which was cooler then
normal night.

 

take the curve again, but this time at 70, and teach that damn curve a lesson!

 

Way to go Shoyu!! A touch of handbrake mid turn should do it!!

 

Only one person (Strike) mentioned the fact he was going "downhill". He understands weight transfer and deserves the "I get it" award.

The 50/50 weight ballance is only when the car is standing still on level ground. Going downhill the weight is biased to the front. Lifting in that corned after entering two hot or worse yet hitting the brakes compounds the error by transfering EVEN MORE weight to the front letting the unloaded rear come around very fast. Combined with cold tires and maybe some dew on the road due to the cold temps (possibly lifting oil to the surface) it was an accident waiting to happen.

Anyone who did not factor the above variables into why this happened does not know all they need to know about driving this car. It is ALL about using YOUR inputs correctly (Throttle/Brakes/Steering) to load the suspension using weight transfer (as smoothly as possible) for the conditions at hand. It also is about knowing the limits of what you can do with weight transfer and knowing when you have reached them and need to back off.

No one here has ever claimed the car is perfect. What has been said is there are driving styles and techniques that are more appropriate (and less apt to get you in trouble) to driving this car. One needs to learn them before they can say anything about how the car handles.

Funny thing here is that there are many folks here who are driving the exact same car and have no problems dealing with this admitedly demanding car. They also understand how easy it is for someone who does not understand what this car needs to get into trouble.

One more time for those who have not tried it;

Go to a cloverleaf type exit/entrance ramp. Enter somewhat slower than you believe you can go and smoothly apply gas through the turn. This loads the rear suspension and settles it, (you will feel it take a set). Do this a number of times gradually using more and more throttle. You will get to the point where you will start to slide the rear out. If you are doing this right you will be able to hang the tail with a good degree of control and steer with the throttle. Make sure the road is clean and not off camber (tilted to the outside). If you are using stock S02s put 32 psi all around. Don't do anything to upset the car while doing this like hitting the VTEC point (be in it or out of it don't transition through it), lifting abrubtly or hitting the brakes. Make sure your tires are warmed and there is no hazzards or traffic in case you screw up. You could also do this in a large empty parking lot but try to keep a constant radius like a good entrance/exit ramp would have.

Learn how to do the above and you have gone a long way in understanding how to drive this car.

Remember "Slow in fast out" Transition SMOOTHLY!

 

This is excellent advice. I figure my S02s (second pair of rears) will last another 2-3K, and then I'll switch to S03s on all four wheels. It's not so much for me, but my wife and daughter also drive the S2000, and giving up some ultimate dry grip for better wet performance is a good compromise for us.

I'll be curious to see if I even notice the difference in the dry.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tox
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This is excellent advice.

 

My tyres have done 10K+ and look like seeing me out till Spring.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tanqueray
[B]Reading these threads, I sometimes wonder if I own the same car.