In the past cars ive owned the redline would actually be like 400rpms shorter than the fuel cut. For example a celica gts redlines at 7800 but actually fuel cuts at 8350 (optimal point to shift). Now in the s2000 whether it be an ap1 or ap2, do you guys shift once the first red dash lights up? or is the fuel cut somewhere along the lines of the 3rd or 4th red dash mark? because the tach is digital its a little bit harder to tell. I tried searching but all i came up was with info on mechanical over revving and if hitting the limiter was bad. Any help would be appreciated.

 

As far as I've seen, all the redline marks flash, so you cant really tell where you are on the tach once you pass redline...

I would assume that's why the Shift Beep mod is so popular.

AP1 redline = 9000
fuel cut = 9200
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AP2 redline = 8000
I think fuel cut is 8200 but someone will probably correct me.

I've gotten a decent feel for when I need to shift right before fuel cut. Not always perfect, but I'm close enough. I dont race much anyway, but plenty of spirited driving.

 

Who said that the fuel cutoff is the optimal shift point?

The red line is there for a reason.

 

the fuel cut off point on the celica gts is best b/c when gts owners shift, the rpms fall below the vvtl engagment point. So most owners would shift at fuel cut, to attempt to stay in vvtl. ask me how i know.

 

how do you know?

 

shifting at fuel cut is hard because the tach isn't very accurate (it just flashes).

I just shift using the timer in my head, usually the red light is on, but doesn't flash.

If you mess up and hit fuel cut, it slows you down quite a bit.

 

I try to shift as close to fuel cut-off as possible to keep myself in the highest RPM's possible when I hit the next gear but then again the ap1's don't have a problem staying in VTEC even if one were to shift at redline. But then in a "street situation" I think the difference it makes whether you shift at redline or at the split second before fuel cut-off is so insignificant that it would be negligible.

I'll put my flame suit on for those who disagree.

 

As far as I'm concerned trying to shift at the fuel cutoff is absurd, sorry...

The optimal shift will be done just prior to stepping into the rev limiter. If you run the rpms up to try and get to the fuel cutoff you will be in the rev limiter and the rev limiter in this car is so strong it robs a good deal of power from the engine, it is indeed so strong there is weight transfer to the front when it kicks in proving the massive reduction in power.

 

really.

 

9000 for ap1 of course