i wish we had some closer events. fontana is damn far from here.

my goal was never to make a faster car. everyone is in this eternal pissing contest to beat each other. i want to make the most fun car that is the most enjoyable to drive. nothing else matters.

thanks for chiming in about grip though, what u said makes sense to me.

 

The effect is correct but the explanation is wrong. In fact, more weight is transfered with the stiffer car, but that's why you have less overall traction. The inside wheels can't share as much of the work.

This is mainly an issue of the swaybar -- the rest of the mods described here have little or no effect on anything but your wallet.

 

why is there so much doubt about the effectiveness of chasis stiffening? im a cheap bastard and want bang for ur buck mods. plus i listed other reviews from different people. to each his own, but i didn't write this for my health. tryin to share good experience.

 

Because, to date, no one has ever shown a lap time difference due to chassis stiffening on the S2000. At least, not from small bolt-on bars like these. The extra stiffening from welding in a full race car cage might be a different matter.

This is a longstanding controversy on this board (between the people who admit it does not have a laptime effect but say it helps anyway and the people who say if you don't have laptimes you don't have anything). It's not really necessary to rehash it.

 

understood. to reiterate my statement, these chasis mods feel great and make for a superior driving sensation, but not sure if they will make your car faster.

 

How is that?

More weight transfer will press the tires into the ground which would increase friction. How does this reduce grip?

 

more weight laterally will pull the car out of line?

 

Yes, it increases the traction from the outside tires. But it decreases the traction from the inside tires even more. So overall, it is a net reduction in traction.

Check out a book on the subject. I think "Going Faster" had a nice description of this, IIRC.

 

I see what you are saying mike but it sounds like you are referring to absolute grip.

I will check out that book.

 

what does IIRC mean?