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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Well, I need to change the brake fluid and have been contemplating getting stainless steel brake lines. Is it worth it for what I do? I drive fairly hard and do some autocross. It's only my weekend warrior. What do you think? I've been looking at the Goodridge lines for about $115.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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it wont hurt the car.

i was thinking about gettin some as well
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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I've never put them on an S2000, but I did put them on an Integra GS-R years ago, a car that eventually became a trailer queen, non-registered Honda Challenge racer.

From my experience there, if you're looking to do this to get a firmer or "better" pedal feel, prepare to be disappointed. Since you're going to be flushing and bleeding the entire system when you do this job, you'll end up with nice fresh, bubble free brake fluid. That, IMHO, is where a lot of the "WOW! The pedal is so much firmer" stuff comes from.

They look kind of neat, but if it were me, I'd spend that money elsewhere. JMO.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:28 AM
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Thanks I think I'll pass on the lines then.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 04:02 AM
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I don't think that's entirely accurate.

Every one of the cars in my signature picture run SS braided hoses, and all of them have great pedal feel. *EDIT: I forgot i've changed sigs ahaha. Anyway, all of the cars within the track/perf section of my car club have had SS hoses fitted.

Plenty in my car club have done the whole bleed, rebleed, bleed again to get better brake feel but its always soft. I should also mention I only drove 5k km's with stock hoses and the difference in firmness was large.

Brake system to brake system, I don't see why the cars shouldn't get the same advantages. Unless, like later models of my car, the brake reservoir and the clutch reservoir share the same fluid and theres a flimsy hose in between them.

I'll probably be burned for commenting so much despite not actually owning an S, but I just think there should be a decent opposing view to krshultz comments .
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JSWhaler,Dec 1 2007, 06:53 PM
Well, I need to change the brake fluid and ... been looking at the Goodridge lines for about $115.
you had the car for 4years, maybe 80K miles? time to think changing things out for maintenance reasons.

get ss lines, speed bleeders for the car and a good fluid and pads. compared to a tank of gas or your cell phone bill they are reasonable cost.

-the old lines may have a death grip use a crawfoot wrench to remove
-adj the rear pads with this
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by krshultz,Dec 1 2007, 11:32 PM
I've never put them on an S2000, but I did put them on an Integra GS-R years ago, a car that eventually became a trailer queen, non-registered Honda Challenge racer.

From my experience there, if you're looking to do this to get a firmer or "better" pedal feel, prepare to be disappointed. Since you're going to be flushing and bleeding the entire system when you do this job, you'll end up with nice fresh, bubble free brake fluid. That, IMHO, is where a lot of the "WOW! The pedal is so much firmer" stuff comes from.

They look kind of neat, but if it were me, I'd spend that money elsewhere. JMO.
I agree. I swapped my lines out in '04. Zero difference. Upgraded fluid and track pads for me- now that makes a difference. In fact, I have a second set in a box, brand new, because of the whole "maintenance" theory. Probably won't go on this year(2008 season) either.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Dec 2 2007, 09:47 AM
I agree. I swapped my lines out in '04. Zero difference. Upgraded fluid and track pads for me- now that makes a difference. In fact, I have a second set in a box, brand new, because of the whole "maintenance" theory. Probably won't go on this year(2008 season) either.
I've owned a lot of cars and I've done a lot of fluid flush and fills on all of them, and every time, I'm surprised at the degree to which fresh, well bled fluid changes the characteristics of the brake pedal.

Now if it's an old, or high mileage car, then I imagine putting stainless lines on as a maintenance thing is a fine idea. And while I have no idea what a set of factory replacement brake lines costs, I'd bet it's more than the $115 you'd pay for the stainless fancy looking ones.

Want your brake system to feel better, AND make it easier to maintain? Take that $115 and spend it on one of these...

http://www.motiveproducts.com/02bleeders.html

...and a few cans of decent brake fluid, and pocket the change.

Again, JMO.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by krshultz,Dec 2 2007, 11:52 AM
I've owned a lot of cars and I've done a lot of fluid flush and fills on all of them, and every time, I'm surprised at the degree to which fresh, well bled fluid changes the characteristics of the brake pedal.

Now if it's an old, or high mileage car, then I imagine putting stainless lines on as a maintenance thing is a fine idea. And while I have no idea what a set of factory replacement brake lines costs, I'd bet it's more than the $115 you'd pay for the stainless fancy looking ones.

Want your brake system to feel better, AND make it easier to maintain? Take that $115 and spend it on one of these...

http://www.motiveproducts.com/02bleeders.html

...and a few cans of decent brake fluid, and pocket the change.

Again, JMO.
like a few people have said earlier, the SS brake lines+fluid+pads may or may not improve the feel of your pedal but it's important to keep the maintenance part in mind..
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Yes, I have 100K Miles now and believe I should change out the lines, OEM work fine since I dont do alot of track time, but some SS braided sound nice as well, so can anyone vouch for the stoptech lines or Jays?
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