Brembo Big Brake Kit vs. s2k w/ Hawk/Cobalt Pads..
03-16-2005, 06:16 PM
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Brembo Big Brake Kit vs. s2k w/ Hawk/Cobalt Pads..
Since a BBK costs so dang much, i'm wondering how it might compare to a S2k with Hawk brake pads or whatever you want.
Is the stopping distance similar? Endurance might be better for BBK, but i'm not looking for endurance.. just distance.
Is the stopping distance similar? Endurance might be better for BBK, but i'm not looking for endurance.. just distance.
03-16-2005, 11:01 PM
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Brakes don't stop the car, tires do. If you can lock up your tires with the stock brakes, the only thing that will reduce stopping distances is stickier tires
03-16-2005, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludedude,Mar 17 2005, 12:01 AM
If you can lock up your tires with the stock brakes
03-17-2005, 03:31 AM
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Hosh you're right, locking them up is a bad idea and it's the reason ABS was invented. Ludedude refers to locking up the tires to explain clamping force. If the factory brakes can lock the tire up then they have more clamping force than needed to bring the car to a stop. Adding more clamping force can't lock the tires up even more and stop the car faster. The reason for the big 4/6 pot brembo/wilwood etc brakes is to apply the same clamping force as the factory calipers, but do it with only a fraction of the capacity the oem caliper needs. in other words, you can run a jet turbine bonneville streamliner at 150 mph a lot longer than an s2000 at 150 mph b/c the streamliner is only using 40% capacity compared to the s2000 running at 100%. Since the bigger brakes only use a fraction of their capacity they run cooler with less brake fade after repeated hard use. I could have worded that explaination a lot better but I just woke up and my brain doesn't function yet
03-17-2005, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by fourcylthrill,Mar 17 2005, 04:31 AM
Hosh you're right, locking them up is a bad idea and it's the reason ABS was invented. Ludedude refers to locking up the tires to explain clamping force. If the factory brakes can lock the tire up then they have more clamping force than needed to bring the car to a stop. Adding more clamping force can't lock the tires up even more and stop the car faster. The reason for the big 4/6 pot brembo/wilwood etc brakes is to apply the same clamping force as the factory calipers, but do it with only a fraction of the capacity the oem caliper needs. in other words, you can run a jet turbine bonneville streamliner at 150 mph a lot longer than an s2000 at 150 mph b/c the streamliner is only using 40% capacity compared to the s2000 running at 100%. Since the bigger brakes only use a fraction of their capacity they run cooler with less brake fade after repeated hard use. I could have worded that explaination a lot better but I just woke up and my brain doesn't function yet
I don't think a lot of people consider their tires before they plunk down the $2-3k for the bigger brakes.
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03-17-2005, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Fongu,Mar 16 2005, 09:12 PM
If you are not looking for endurance, you don't need brakes at all. You need sticker and/or wider tires.
