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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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I looked and haven't seen all the results posted. Maybe I missed it. Anyway, here are the times from the C&D November Short Take on the '04 S2000 vs their August test of the '03.

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'03(August) / '04 (November)
0-60: 5.4 / 5.4
quarter: 14.1 / 14.1
street start, 5-60: 7.0 / 6.9
Top speed: 146 / 149
braking: 161 / 166
30-50 (top gear): 9.9 / 8.8
50-70 (top gear): 9.4 / 7.9

Basically, all are well within uncertainties and sample-sample variation, except top-gear accel. I'm not surprised by any except the "street start". I would have expected, and my models predict, a significant improvement. Maybe they added that one extra 2-3 shift rather than going to fuel cutoff? From the top speeds, it is clear that it isn't a case of the '04 being an underperformer. I do fully expect that you'll see significantly an improvement in a given (low) rpm real-world acceleration. But that doesn't show in all-out clutch-drop assaults.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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SO the 03 looks good.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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01 even better
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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What accounts for the differences in braking differences? The hotly debated "softer" suspension in the '04? I wonder....

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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I wouldn't say 5 feet difference in braking is a difference. I defy anyone to get within 5 feet of their original braking distances over a number of stops - and I'm NOT talking back to back either.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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...but then couldn't the street start variation between the 03 and 04 (0.1 sec) be argued in the same vein?

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by VTEXTC
What accounts for the differences in braking differences?
I have read some references to compliants about Honda new brand pad material on TSX forums. I don't know if the S2200's new brake material is the same as the new pad material on other Honda cars -- but it could be it.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by FCGuy
I looked and haven't seen all the results posted.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by S2000_Europe
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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Don't forget these are just numbers.

What the numbers don't show is HOW they got there.


I bet the '04 is much easier to drive and easier to repeat those figures. The earlier ones are a little trickier and require more precision, so if you miss a shift or something like that -- you will be much slower.
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