Thats with 17inch wheels

 

Wow- the numbers are so close, I guess I should really own both versions! Seriously, I think the new S will be a little easier to keep in the sweet spot of the engine. It's still hard for me to believe that (in either case) such a little engine performs so well.

 

30-50 (top gear): 9.9 / 8.8
Come on, who does this? Seriously?
It's like throwing a shoe!
(for all you Austin Powers fans)

I can maybe see:
50-70 (top gear): 9.4 / 7.9

Both these numbers are rather dubious though.


The street start shows the entire power band difference
Street start, 5-60: 7.0 / 6.9
Which is to say they are very close with the 04 having some slight advantage (more due to gearing than low-end torque I?d suspect).

The 04 clearly has more torque from 2k-4k (because of the 50-70).

I'll hold back my 2.2 < 2.0 comments to keep this thread from going off topic.

-Ed

 

No one. LOL can't ever imagine a situation where I'd be in 6th and going less than 50 mph. That just doesn't happen.

 

Since I'm going to buy this car mainly to autocross. It seems pre-04 is the way to go?

I guess I don't really have enough information to form a proper conclusion.

However, I must say that if everyone (in the US) is flocking towards the 2.2L, that'll drive down the price of the 2.0Ls, which is good news for me.

(I've decided to get the pre-04s regardless of which model is better, since the "2000" in S2000 means something to me)

 

The 50ish to 70 is a good comparo. And the improvement is awesome for sometime highway commuters like myself. Even at 60, roll on in 6th (or 5th) is poor in this car.

Yes I know you can shift to 4th.

Since I haven't gotten my C&D yet, is the top speed, as tested or estimated - C&D frequently use estimated and the taller 6th would give a higher estimated top, but with HP being the same, I suspect the topspeed will remain the same. Is the 00-03 drag limited or RPM limited at top speed. Not really concerned as Top Speed is never of interest to me, I'm much more concerned with the usable range on most NE tracks, bxt 40 and 125-135.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by vroom
The 50ish to 70 is a good comparo.

 

Given the assumption that the '04 is nearly identical to an '03 with 4.56 gears, it stands to reason that the car will be easier to drive - people who have installed 4.44 gears have already reported this. However, it does require a little more shifting, which might explain why the '04 doesn't show any improvement to 60mph - it probably requires an extra shift that the '03 doesn't.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dundonr

 

There is nothing stopping the 2004 driver from doing the same thing.