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Sep 5, 2003 | 05:09 PM

#91

3ngin33r1

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 6sigma
[B]"Will Honda soften the temperament of the purest sports car sold in America?

Sep 5, 2003 | 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by 2001GSR
If you had the chance to get an 03 or an 04 which would you get?

I would personally get the 2004, which I just might be doing soon enough. That is, if I like the new front bumper which I am kind of worried about. I have seen a picture of what the they think it will look like, and YUCK!

If what a dealer near by tells me is true, I'll be able to make my choice next week sometime.

Sep 5, 2003 | 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by 2001GSR
If you had the chance to get an 03 or an 04 which would you get?

I'd wait for the '04 and drive it compared to an '03 and make the educated decision at that time.

Sep 6, 2003 | 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by JsnS2k
I have seen a picture of what the they think it will look like, and YUCK!

You can see a picture of the actual new S2200 on the back of the new Honda brochures. It's a small pics, but it is not a guess.

Sep 6, 2003 | 09:18 AM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by FCGuy
[B]Okay, Dave (that's me, the automotive engineer), what do you say?...

Well, this is the old torque v rpm. And sprinkle in a bit of confusion.

Sep 6, 2003 | 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by BrotherRex
For all those who are rev happy. Peak hp on the existing motor is 8300rpm and torque peaks long before that- not at the redline 9k. There's a cliff effect after 8300. You gain nothing except more wear and tear on your precious little engine by taking it to 9k...

I think you've oversimplified this a bit.

Yes, power falls of as the engine revs from 8300 to redline; however, power would fall off much more sharply if you shift to the next higher gear at 8300. It's not just the power in the current gear that matters, but also the power that would be available in the next gear.

Sep 6, 2003 | 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by FCGuy
Sorry for the length.

Not at all. Thanks for the informative (and clear) post.

Sep 6, 2003 | 11:03 AM

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"You can see a picture of the actual new S2200 on the back of the new Honda brochures. It's a small pics, but it is not a guess."

Yeah I tried to go find a new brochure, but none of the dealers have the 04 brochures yet
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Sep 6, 2003 | 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Back-cracker
In simple terms, what is your opinion on the 04 HP and Torque? And assuming that Peak will be 7700 RPM.

Thanks!!

BC

Opinion on what part? While none of us will know till more info is available, my estimate is that (assuming no significant weight change):
It'll be slightly quicker in an all-out acceleration run. So a slightly faster 0-60 and quarter. But in normal driving, ie when below 7500 rpm, it'll probably be about 5-10% faster since it likely have 5-10% more torque at any given rpm. That's for the same gearing (which apparently is not the case). So, presumably better driveability.

I don't consider this the world-changing event that some here do. But also, I don't own one.

Let's wait and see.