Car & Driver Lightning Lap - S2000 CR
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Originally Posted by ikeyballz,Sep 27 2008, 04:38 PM
dont rag on them americans yet mang. that ecotec 4banger is pretty lethal when done right, just like any other 4banger that honda makes.
lets face it...we just dont have a 'uberfastcar' ......unless youre boosted/ITB'd.
that + gm now knows they have to make a 'sports coupe' that can try to compete with the civic si's and stuff...
lets face it...we just dont have a 'uberfastcar' ......unless youre boosted/ITB'd.
that + gm now knows they have to make a 'sports coupe' that can try to compete with the civic si's and stuff...
Every test I see with the Si/S2k there pads faded, leaving them with 2-3 laps and bad brake fade.
Ps. I've tracked the above cars and I can definitely tell you these guys in the magazine should get a few lessons.
FWD especially in the new Cobalt feels easier to drive due to the increased toque and less wheel hop. The Lotus does and will always be faster on a track.
End of story.
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^^i will be interested to hear how they compare.
as someone who made the descision to buy an S pretty recently, i am fine to see that it isnt the absolute fastest around the track (we all already knew that). the cobalt loses on visual appeal, reliability, build quality, interior, not a convertible. and besides, my S was only 16 grand, so all that really matters is that it is a hell of a lot faster than a Fit or an optioned out kia!
as someone who made the descision to buy an S pretty recently, i am fine to see that it isnt the absolute fastest around the track (we all already knew that). the cobalt loses on visual appeal, reliability, build quality, interior, not a convertible. and besides, my S was only 16 grand, so all that really matters is that it is a hell of a lot faster than a Fit or an optioned out kia!
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with a big brake kit and new pads the CR should win, I've said before the brakes on this car are a weak point and I was amazed Honda didn't upgrade them on the CR, if they would have, I probably would have sprung for it
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^ If anything we need more juice coming out of the corners.
I think a better final-drive gear + simply having better pads + fluid would make a world of difference.
If you watch the Hot Version video with the AP1, AP2 and J Boy in a slightly modded AP2 that has I believe an intake and 4.77 FD.. he SMOKES Keiichi who is piloting the AP2 I believe.
I think if he was in a CR with the same mods it would be an even more massive gap due to less weight and better front suspension.
I think a better final-drive gear + simply having better pads + fluid would make a world of difference.
If you watch the Hot Version video with the AP1, AP2 and J Boy in a slightly modded AP2 that has I believe an intake and 4.77 FD.. he SMOKES Keiichi who is piloting the AP2 I believe.
I think if he was in a CR with the same mods it would be an even more massive gap due to less weight and better front suspension.
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LOL
They could only get .86 g's out of the Elise SC in sector 1
Also, the Evo's time in sector 1 is unusually slow (probably due to the driver), otherwise it would have beaten the Cobalt SS.
They could only get .86 g's out of the Elise SC in sector 1
Also, the Evo's time in sector 1 is unusually slow (probably due to the driver), otherwise it would have beaten the Cobalt SS.
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