[QUOTE=S2Kage,Oct 13 2008, 09:34 PM]Well, the cars didnt drive themselves around the track, a person did.

 

But it's fair to say that the Cobalt is turboed so isn't that basically like putting a turbo on a Civic Si? Honda could have put a turbo on the CR and it would probably beat the Cobalt.

 

thats like saying well....i couldve put a turbo on a pinto.

doesnt matter.

stock for stock, the cobalt spanks the s2k.

i still think the s2k looks much sexier..and id rather own a s2k. only chevys i'll own will be v8s. maybe a colbalt if i get old/have kids

 

Good point.

The Cobalt is like a fast economy car...I know it's fast but it just doesn't have that sports car feel to me.

I just wish Honda would pay more attention to the S2000. I know they released the CR but why not do more? Chevy had the C6 corvette then it has the ZR1 which are almost two different cars. Honda has the S2000 and the S2000 CR which are both good cars but not a huge difference?

Don't get me wrong I love the S2000 just kind of gets annoying that even cars that aren't meant to be better are. (RR, Cobalt, Type R, etc.) Of course as stated above the S2000 looks better than those (although the Type R and RR do look pretty nice imo).

 

[QUOTE=ikeyballz,Oct 13 2008, 10:50 PM] stock for stock, the cobalt spanks the s2k.

i still think the s2k looks much sexier..and id rather own a s2k.

 

lets just remember we have the most powerful n/a production engine on earth, mod it up how you want too, the stock performance is amazing as is, our cars are great, especially for the price

 

no the cobalt has a turbo/FI, the s2k is N/A

fair would be comparing a N/A cobalt to an s2k

or

a forced induction s2k to the forced induction cobalts

 

Wow, we got to 3 pages of this? I really can't understand why all of you are freaking out. I'm sure there are some cobalt ss owners here that are rofl reading this thread of a whole bunch of s2k owners trying to justify their purchase or how flawed the test was.

Look - the cobalt ss is fast. It's really fast. GM got it right. They know how to make affordable fast cars (see corvette - affordable relative to its performance). If you want to go really fast in a new stock car around most race tracks for under $25k, you really shouldn't look any further.

But, if you care how you get around that race track, then you should shop around. Every car I've driven has it's own "personality" and I've found the S2k is the most fun to drive car I have ever driven. But that's just my personal preference. I don't care about a hp or torque #'s. I don't care about handling g's, quarter mile or 0-60 times, or braking distances. I care about how much fun I have while driving the car around.

And for those that say the S should be faster - a car is only as fast as it's driver. That's the problem with these lap time tests. People get so freaked out about lap times and what beat this or that. If you've never tracked your car, you wouldn't be able to get anywhere near the lap times C&D got anyway. Most drivers really only utilize maybe 25% of it's maximum performance. So why is everyone getting concerned about what the maximum performance of their car is when they probably won't even attempt to reach that maximum?

And about the brakes. The S2k brakes are simply phenomenal, but any brake pad will fade if you get enough heat in them. The solution is either a big, heavy, expensive big break kit to dissipate the heat, or more aggressive pads. The problem with race pads is that they are louder, dust more, and most importantly require a higher operating temperature. These are things you do NOT want for a street car. Your daily driving stopping distances will be noticeably FARTHER with race pads than with street pads.

So everyone calm down. Show some respect. And get your cars out to a track or autocross.

 

S2000's handle well for a convertible but it's still missing a roof which adds a lot of rigidity.

 

While it's true that we won't ever reach a car's true potential, each driver is considered his own baseline, which means, that if you are able to drive at 6/10ths in car A, then the same can be said for car B. So if driver X can drive car A faster than car B on the same day without improving himself, then it's assumed that car A will get faster lap times than car B with any given driver.