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The consequences of VTECing too much?

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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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the real consequences are that people say you remind them of the Joker...
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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Let's see, w/my '88 FieroGT, 1st to redline, 2nd to redline and I was over 70 MPH, shift to 5th.

I drove that GM product that way from 44,000 miles to over 120,000 miles with no ill effect (heck aside from an alternator, no repairs).

I'm quite sure a Honda engine (given their track record [pun intended], racing and motorcycle experience) can do the same if not a lot better.

If you look at all the high-mileage VTEC engines out there (didn't the NSX's come out in late 80's?)--I'm sure any issue would have been addressed.

I doubt the S2000, designed to "celebrate Honda's F1 racing heritage", would be under-designed in that respect.

Also, VTEC isn't some kind of magic that's pushing the limits, it's simply another set of cams and valves that operate at different timing.

The only difference with the way I drive the S is 1st-2nd-6th instead of 1st-2nd-5th...

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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Randy
Let's see, w/my '88 FieroGT, 1st to redline, 2nd to redline and I was over 70 MPH, shift to 5th.

The only difference with the way I drive the S is 1st-2nd-6th instead of 1st-2nd-5th...

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Sounds like synchro catastrophe waiting to happen. If you shift from 2nd to 6th at redline, the 6th gear synchro is going to have to negotiate a 5500 RPM difference instead of the 1~2K difference that it is designed for. I used to drive my '91 Integra that way (2nd to 5th at ~6K RPMs), and I wound up with a cracked 5th gear synchro at about 50K miles.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 02:43 PM
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Kept mine in happy, happy VTEC land for about 45 minutes a few weeks ago. 140mph or so at 7000 rpm in 5th gear for the better part of an hour. Broke a valve, nearly trashed my motor (3400 miles). Lesson learned!

Question though, why doesn't honda warn people about VTEC'ing when the engine is cold? Or do they just like for people to find out what happens themseelves?

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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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What would Honda have to warn about? The engine WON'T VTEC when it is cold.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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And they do warn us about cold VTEC: check the Owner's Manual.
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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 04:55 AM
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I also have a 92 gsr with 136000 had driven miles. she still turns 8000 regurlarly. I believe as engines wear the rings in the piston walls wear if you do not rev her the walls will wear unevenly and eventually after time the grooves will not allow it to rev smoothly. So have fun driving her the way she is supposed to be driven.
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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 06:36 AM
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Question though, why doesn't honda warn people about VTEC'ing when the engine is cold? Or do they just like for people to find out what happens themseelves?
I think everybody knows that you should not run high rev's on any cold engine. My previous CRX was running max Rpm all the time (but never with a cold engine) for 177,000 miles with no problems, then I sold it and it is still working fine.
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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 12:29 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by gernby
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Sounds like synchro catastrophe waiting to happen.
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