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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 07:45 AM
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 08:41 AM
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Billman has stated he has seen perfect results using Mobil 1 75w-90.

https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/...ube-ls-75w-90/

Nifty Billman trick is to get another drain bolt and use it for the fill. One wrench size and you get another magnet in there.
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroptzero
The Honda fluid comes from their motorcycle division, it could be sourced from Honda if someone wanted it, but the Amsoil and Mobil1 offerings are easy to find and likely better.
It sounds like you are referring to a different product, this is definitely not from the motorcycle division.

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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck S
I recall the "genuine Honda" differential oil is intended for front wheel drive cars and is NOT GL5 hypoid gear oil which is the critical spec. Many to choose from and multigrades are fine.

The spec for SAE 90 gear oil changed after the S2000 went out of production. It was split into a pair of narrower viscosity bands. The top half of the viscosity was split off to SAE 110 (which did not exist prior to the split) so you can use 110 and still be in the original spec. The SAE 90 on the shelf today is the thinner half -- but also still in spec.

The partial bottle of Amway Amsoil 75W-110 full synthetic in my garage leads me to believe that's what's in my differential which uses 0.78 quart. I know I used Lubrication Engineering previously but they're no longer GL5 certified. Big discussion a couple of years ago and the oil itself may not have changed just LE not jumping thru the certification hoop. Plenty of certified oils.

Maintenance schedule is two (2) years or 30,000 miles in normal service which makes it every other oil change for me the same as the oil filter.

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Honda dealers sell a 75W80 GL5 now. In a Honda bottle. You can, ofcourse, use this in a S2000 diff...but its VERY thin. So I wouldn't.

Its for AWD transfer cases.

There's no "genuine honda diff oil" for FWD transmissions, as the diff is integrated into the trans.

You might be thinking of VTM4, Dual Pump or SH-AWD diff fluid which is similar to ATF. These are for AWD system rear diffs. Obviously not meant for the S2000.
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 11:49 AM
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I've been using Mobil1 75w-140 synthetic (like many others).

But, I recently read somewhere, that using thick fluid really robs performance. I forgot where I read it... I think it was a presentation of the new 2022 GR86 iirc. Where they stated they shifted to using a lighter fluid (75w-90 iirc) for better performance.
I dunno how plausible/true this is, as I'm no lube-expert nor mechanical-engineer. But, if true, then Mobil1 75w-90 would probably be better than 140.

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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah2000
I've been using Mobil1 75w-140 synthetic (like many others).

But, I recently read somewhere, that using thick fluid really robs performance. I forgot where I read it... I think it was a presentation of the new 2022 GR86 iirc. Where they stated they shifted to using a lighter fluid (75w-90 iirc) for better performance.
I dunno how plausible/true this is, as I'm no lube-expert nor mechanical-engineer. But, if true, then Mobil1 75w-90 would probably be better than 140.
75W90 is thinner so you'll have less drivetrain loss but our diff capacity is pretty small at about 0.7 quarts so it is going to get pretty hot. It is probably fine if you don't track or auto x at all but at the track I'd want something thicker which is why I run 75w140.
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 08:18 AM
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S2KPUDDYDAD aka PuddyMod, the apparent S2000 differential guru recommended either 75w110 or 75w140 in the stock differential post-standards changes. As well, the LSD seems to be sensitive to the gear oil breaking down and thinning out so 140 it was for me. I guess I don't really care about the minute loss of MPG and I don't drive the car in winter so...*shrug*
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by zze86
S2KPUDDYDAD aka PuddyMod, the apparent S2000 differential guru recommended either 75w110 or 75w140 in the stock differential post-standards changes. As well, the LSD seems to be sensitive to the gear oil breaking down and thinning out so 140 it was for me. I guess I don't really care about the minute loss of MPG and I don't drive the car in winter so...*shrug*

75W140 is still thinner than SAE90 or 80W90 in winter.

Its retains viscosity as it heats up. Meaning less viscosity is LOST as it heats up.

Its a 75 weight oil to start.

But if you took a pot of 75W140 and another pot of straight 140 and heated them up to operating temp....they'd be similar viscosity.

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Idk what is considered operating temp for gear oil. BEYOND (higher than) the rated temps, idk if the above holds true.

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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 08:50 AM
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OP's likely not coming back, BTW.
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by B serious
75W140 is still thinner than SAE90 or 80W90 in winter.

Its retains viscosity as it heats up. Meaning less viscosity is LOST as it heats up.

Its a 75 weight oil to start.

But if you took a pot of 75W140 and another pot of straight 140 and heated them up to operating temp....they'd be similar viscosity.

KnowwhatImean?

Idk what is considered operating temp for gear oil. BEYOND (higher than) the rated temps, idk if the above holds true.
That's true. My brain was all about the hunnits there.
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