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Difference between Ti Shift knob and Alumium?

Old Feb 15, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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is there a difference between the titanium shift knob and the stock '00 & '01 shift knob? in the look? or just the feel? thanks.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Seriously speaking, I think the only differences are the titanium is fractionally lighter than the aluminum, probably less prone to scratch, and it costs more.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Actually Dario, the Ti is alot heavier than the Aluminum one. It has a darker sheen (intrinsic to the metal), less prone to scratch, otherwise in size and shape is the same.

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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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I thought Titanium was lighter than aluminum.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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Ti is lighter the Steel, Ti is heavier the Aluminum.

As you can see from the weights of the VooDoo's that Rick sells, Ti is heavier.
  • Titanium weight regular: 243 grams
  • Aluminum weight regular: 150 grams
  • Titanium weight magnum: 284 grams
  • Aluminum weight magnum: 175 grams
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by DarioManfretti
I thought Titanium was lighter than aluminum.
Ti is heavier than Al, but because of it's strength, it can hold it's form in a thinner sheet than Al, so for lightweight structural rigidity it can be used because it requires less material to make a strong form (like bike frame). In solid form, like shift knobs, it'll be heavier for a volume ratio.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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Which one maintains heat longer? Which one will be hotter after the same amount of exposure to the sun?

Anyone?

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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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Titanium is generally about as light as aluminum but has the strength similar to that of chrome-moly steel. What makes titanium popular in some applications are its properties with regards to elasticity and elongation. This is why titanium makes such a great bicycle frame. Aluminum, while light weight, has poor fatigue properties when compared to steel and titanium. Using titanium for a shift knob is pointless really. More because titanium has a more "high tech" sound to it I guess.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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This used to be in the Library, it's worth a read and reinstatement on the site .


Posted by pdippell on Honda-Acura net. 26 january, 2000

In the expanding quest for ever more obsessive minutiae about the S2000, I humbly present: the comparative weights of the stock aluminum shift knob and the optional titanium shift knob. Having just received the titanium shift knob, I removed the aluminum one (not a one step procedure, but two, yet that is in and of itself a topic for a future post) and weighed them both on my wife's digital kitchen scale. For the sake of brevity, I will leave out the make, model and various atmospheric, gravitic and other influences on the scale, except to say that it has an accuracy of +/- 2.5 grams, and offer for your consideration the actual tested weight of these two particular specimens:

Aluminum knob: 150 grams (5.25 oz)
Titanium knob: 255 grams (9 oz)

This is a difference of almost 1/4 pound, an offensive amount that encumbers the HP:weight ratio of the S2000 by and additional 0.06%! It is quite clear, then, that installation of this optional knob would only be done by the shallowest of posers, dilettantes, even (yea verily shall I say it?) riceboys! After deep consideration of this empirically-based conclusion, and a close examination of my own morals and ethics, as well as those of the people whom I consider my friends and my business associates, and not leaving out the potential impact on my family and the reputation of my heirs, I felt I had no other choice than to....install it!
I know you are at this moment restraining yourself from clicking on "Post a Reply" to announce your resignation from this board, as you recoil in horror from the knowledge that you may have read previous posts from someone as vapid, degenerate and immoral as myself, but I urge you instead to channel your energies in a different direction, one that may offer me redemption and indeed may allow all of you to install the titanium shift knob and yet be free from moral apprehension or community approbation:
Go out and procure shift knobs from Boxsters (of the 2.5, 2.7 and 3.2 liter varieties), from M Roadsters, even from Corvettes, Elises and Caterham SuperSevens, procure them any way that you can, even in the dark of night, and send them to me. Send them to me and I will weigh them on the exact scale upon which I weighed the S2000 shift knobs, and we will see, no doubt, that Honda has planned ahead to rise supreme to even this trivial challenge, and save us from ignominy. For these non-S2000 shift knobs will be, I know it in my heart, heavier.
For God's sake, for my own and perhaps yours, do not delay!
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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Coral Doc, Please lay off of the

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