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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mikey k,Jan 12 2006, 10:42 AM


Making his car a V plate. There are UK cars registered before Sept 99 putting them on a T plate but they are rare.

Our system over here is wierd. My current car is a Dec 03, MY04 so new shape, it is on a 53 plate but is an AP1 on the VIN.
Get your head round that one!
That's because the AP1 /AP2 difference is denoted by the engine type Mikey.

AP1 = 2.0 proper cars
AP2 = 2.2 North American compromised cars

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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:00 AM
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some of the US guys don't though
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Beardie,Jan 12 2006, 10:55 AM
Hope this helps.

I've found this UK recall info for the S2000.

It details 2 recalls with

VIN Nos: JHMAP1130YT000308 TO JHMAP1130YT004043
with build dates from: 29 June 1999 to 18 December 1999

and

Vin Nos: JHMAP1130YT000317 TO JHMAP1130YT006328
with build dates from: 29th June 1999 to 21st April 2000

As mentioned previously the 10th digit of Y denotes a model year of 2000.
(And confirmed at this Uk site here).

So IMO, I think that we can conclude from this that:
a) Honda uses the ISO standard for both US and European markets
b) Honda uses the 10th digit standard to show Model Year
c) Honda has designated the year 2000 as the first Model Year for the S2000

Having said all that, a UK car registered in 1999 will still be known/classed/called a 99 car in the UK. We just don't use the Model Year concept in the UK. It's purely a North American fabrication/concept which is gaining ground due to North America being the biggest market.

Beardie
Nice work Sherlock.

Now go find evidence of those weapons of mass destruction please
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Beardie,Jan 12 2006, 06:55 AM
Hope this helps.

I've found this UK recall info for the S2000.

It details 2 recalls with

VIN Nos: JHMAP1130YT000308 TO JHMAP1130YT004043
with build dates from: 29 June 1999 to 18 December 1999

and

Vin Nos: JHMAP1130YT000317 TO JHMAP1130YT006328
with build dates from: 29th June 1999 to 21st April 2000

As mentioned previously the 10th digit of Y denotes a model year of 2000.
(And confirmed at this Uk site here).

So IMO, I think that we can conclude from this that:
a) Honda uses the ISO standard for both US and European markets
b) Honda uses the 10th digit standard to show Model Year
c) Honda has designated the year 2000 as the first Model Year for the S2000

Having said all that, a UK car registered in 1999 will still be known/classed/called a 99 car in the UK. We just don't use the Model Year concept in the UK. It's purely a North American fabrication/concept which is gaining ground due to North America being the biggest market.

Beardie
Beardie, As Elvis would say, thankya, thankya, thankyaverymuch. Nothing like the facts to clear things up. Your next assignment, should you wish to take it, is to find those weapons. Just be careful you don't harm one of those 'proper' S2000s as our numbers are limited.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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Just noticed your previous cars Dave.
I currently have a 1970 Triumph Stag (commission no. LD47) sitting in my garage.
It hasn't moved for 13 years though.

I'm sure that Google could turn up the WMD's.

On second thoughts ...
Google Search
Results 1 - 10 of about 18,600,000 for "weapons of mass destruction".
.... maybe not.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 05:39 AM
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Just a thought for the uninitiated. The probable reason Japan does not include a year designation as part of vehicle VINs is because their calendar is not a christian based one. The year starts every time an emperor dies and is known as year X of emperor Y's reign.

The current emperor (Akihito) is now in his 18th year and his reign is known as the Heisei era, so instead of calling this year 2006 it is instead known as 18 Heisei.

Imagine if you had two succesive emperors die one year after the other, each of their reigns would be year 01 - prettty confusing in a VIN designation eh!

Hope this helps.


As a final point, here in Australia it is illegal for anyone to promote a new or used vehicle as any year other than the year of manufacture. A car manufactured in 1999 must be advertised as a 1999 model. It is also considered ignorant and foolish (frankly we think you yanks are a bunch of wankers ) to refer to a vehicle as anything other than it's model designation (e.g. our top selling vehicle is a Holden Commodore (4 door equivalent of a Pontiac GTO) - the current series was introduced in late 1997 and has gone through 4 major incarnations - VT, VX, VY and VZ with mid life updates designated as a Series II, e.g. VX series II).

In situations where you need to order parts for a car that does not have model designations (such as an S2000) the dealer will ask you for the month/year manufacturing date and the VIN in order to ascertain precisely which parts are required.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 05:58 AM
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Beardie, I bought the Stag, a bright yellow one, when I had two small children and didn't want to give up my sports cars. At the same time I passed on a Porsche 911 Targa. I was later (not much later) to determine this was the dumbest car decision I ever made. I only kept the Stag about 8 months and came to my senses. I see from my UK vintage car mag's that the Stag still holds a special place in your country. IMO it was a good idea poorly executed.

Thanks for the report from Down-Under.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SenderGreen,Jan 11 2006, 08:22 PM
"the JDM VIN does not contain the model year"

How come all the members who have entered VIN's to S2Ki in the international Japanese section have a MY in their signature, no MY99's either. Does S2ki determine their MY differently?

"have we confirmed they look the same for europe?"
I think so.
did you even bother to read my post? lol. i just posted information regarding the ISO standard for VIN numbers, and how it CLEARLY STATES that the UK does NOT have to follow the VIN procedure for year. in other words, the UK may or may not have the model year in the VIN.

And again, as I clearly pointed out, the japanese VIN does NOT have the model year in it.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SenderGreen,Jan 11 2006, 08:47 PM
"FYI, they are NOT the same in japan. didn't you even read that information in this thread? in case you missed it:

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...post&p=6814280
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Isn't he agreeing with me???

Thanks Elistan.
actually, if you re-read his post, you'll see the part I quoted at the bottom where it states that japanese VINs are NOT the same as ours.

once again, not to mention I ALREADY POSTED the information regarding the ISO standard.

are you selectively reading what you want to read, and ignoring everything else I post that supports what I'm saying? sheesh!!
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Beardie,Jan 12 2006, 04:55 AM
c) Honda has designated the year 2000 as the first Model Year for the S2000
not true. honda blatently has cars listed using their model year nomenclature. ie, 1999.4 or 1999.6, etc.
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