Do's and Dont's and what to look out for?
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Decide the year, color, mods, etc you want. Then decide the year, color, mods etc you will accept. Then shop - shop - shop. Get on ebay, cars.com etc. etc. In this economy there are some really great deals to be had. When you find the right deal - don't wait. If you wait the good deal will be gone. It's best to buy a roadster in the winter. The closer we get to summer the fewer good buys will be out there. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by sgtmorph' date='Jan 10 2009, 11:24 AM
I dont want anyone to think I'm putting down how the DBW is tuned for the s2k. I haven't driven an s2k ever so I cant speak from experience.
Me personally, I'm just not a fan of the DBW itself.
To each his own I say. And "bgoetz" is right on the money.
I would definetly plan on a K-pro among many other mods.
Me personally, I'm just not a fan of the DBW itself.
To each his own I say. And "bgoetz" is right on the money.
I would definetly plan on a K-pro among many other mods.
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Actually, Kpro is available on the DBW cars. The only Kpro available for the 00-05 cars is a kludge IMO...you have to use an RSX ecu and sensors to fool the Kpro to think it is in an RSX. Not the best solution and more expensive than the AEM EMS...which also has compromises.
Honestly, if I were starting over and choosing an s2k to mod, it would be a DBW car since you can get the real Kpro for it. And it's especially attractive with a really decent off-the-shelf SC like the Kraftwerks available for the DBW cars primarily.
Dont's: Don't fixate on NA if you want lots of power. There just isn't much headroom left in the F20/22 to make big NA numbers like you can with a K-series.
Do's: Search search search...read read and read some more before you start asking questions.
Honestly, if I were starting over and choosing an s2k to mod, it would be a DBW car since you can get the real Kpro for it. And it's especially attractive with a really decent off-the-shelf SC like the Kraftwerks available for the DBW cars primarily.
Dont's: Don't fixate on NA if you want lots of power. There just isn't much headroom left in the F20/22 to make big NA numbers like you can with a K-series.
Do's: Search search search...read read and read some more before you start asking questions.
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ahhh, just checked and I guess they do offer Kpro now, either way what was being discussed above was reflash vs. Kpro. Their website indicates that you still need the K-series ECU as well as a reflashed S2k ECU though. This is different from the pre 06 S2k in which you only need the Kseries ECU to run everything. IMO I would rather have one ECU instead of 2 separate ECUs. We all know that with all of the room in the S2k there will be plenty of places to put the second ECU 
. Plus you would no longer have cruise control.
It does seem like there would be alot of work to get the pre-06 Kpro to work though, quite a few sensors to replace. I did not realize the amount of work required, like I said I had no intention, so I did not really look into it.
. Plus you would no longer have cruise control.It does seem like there would be alot of work to get the pre-06 Kpro to work though, quite a few sensors to replace. I did not realize the amount of work required, like I said I had no intention, so I did not really look into it.
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Originally Posted by bgoetz' date='Jan 10 2009, 11:55 PM
We all know that with all of the room in the S2k there will be plenty of places to put the second ECU . Plus you would no longer have cruise control.
. Plus you would no longer have cruise control.
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Originally Posted by bgoetz' date='Jan 10 2009, 08:22 PM
Are you aware that are reflash is inferior to K-pro?? With a reflash you just send them your ECU tell them your mods and they make an educated guess as to the best tune, download it, and then send it back. It IS NOT FULLY TUNABLE 
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Kpro however is fully tunable, using the K-series ECU inplace of the S2k ECU a data port is installed in the ECU which you hook YOUR computer up to and have pretty much everything and anything at your finger tips. This allows an experianced shop to put your car on their dyno and tune your specific car, specifically for your exact mods, gaining more hp and a all around better tune than the reflash.
Their are also tons of options like launch control, lean protection, etc. that you can turn off and on at you will. Plus if your check engine comes on, you can take a look as to why, and reset it if you wish.
. Kpro however is fully tunable, using the K-series ECU inplace of the S2k ECU a data port is installed in the ECU which you hook YOUR computer up to and have pretty much everything and anything at your finger tips. This allows an experianced shop to put your car on their dyno and tune your specific car, specifically for your exact mods, gaining more hp and a all around better tune than the reflash.
Their are also tons of options like launch control, lean protection, etc. that you can turn off and on at you will. Plus if your check engine comes on, you can take a look as to why, and reset it if you wish.
Sorry Bgoetz and everyone else for the mis-information...I guess I was missinformed.
Sgtmorph...
I do know what you are talking about when you mentioned the "throttle hang". It does happen and I notice it on my S from time to time.
But that brief milli-second lag between the time you mash the throttle and when it actually electronically kicks in is something I haven't noticed yet. Anyhow...Sounds like you have made up your mind on the year/s to get so good luck and enjoy the car when you do get it.
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Originally Posted by Rubn1out4GudLuk' date='Jan 11 2009, 08:11 AM
Really...I thought it was fully tunable. I keep hearing around my meets how wonderous the 06+ ecu's are because you can reflash them and get some tuning out of them unlike the pre-06 models. I guess Kpro just takes it to the next level.