I'll chime in here with my regrets for the loss of two lives.

I suppose my main thought on this has nothing to do with the idea of unsafe speed, bad roads, conditions, etc.

Its one of experience. I'm not the type to say "these kids were only 19, what were they doing in an S2000???". I've met 16 year olds who can handle a RWD car.

The issue is that nothing in our drivers education curriculum prepares a driver for controlling a car in loss-of-control situations. There is no discussion of handling. No discussion of control. No discussion of conditioned responses.

The best kids get is "drive defensively" and "turn into the skid". Behind the wheel training (at least where I grew up) was just driving around town in normal conditions.

Most people who have only been driving a few years haven't had the opportunity to learn what to do when things go bottom up behind the wheel. Its only made worse when the car they're driving is a twitchy RWD roadster.

I think that active, hands on drivers ed, with an honest discussion about how driving works (both mechanically and in regards to how traffic works) would go a long way towards preventing this kind of accident. Instead, we get a government mandated course of instruction that has about as much to do with real driving as your abstinence-only 'health' education has to do with actual sex. IE, nothing.

Teach people to drive, encourage learning the craft of driving as a valuable skill, and I really think things on the road will improve. Maybe we'd even see fewer people driving SUVs and more reasonable speed laws/enforcement.

Thats all.

 

s2000red07 does have a knack for prose.

Agree with him or not, he proffers clear points, his presentation is refreshing, and the material is entertaining to read.

We have all seen postings that are written so poorly they give cause for concern surrounding the longevity of our species.

It's nice to see the pendulum swing the other way.

 

Guys... I break the law EVERY DAY. I speed EVERY DAY. I can't talk about what happened here. It could be me.

I will do 60 in a 45 without thinking twice about it. I do 80 in a 55 without breaking a sweat.

Come on. None of us are angels.

 

I believe that it would. The older S2000's definately have some stability issues.

 

R.I.P. That is really sad but I'm almost positive speed played a part in it...I could be wrong but it's not really my place to discuss anyway. My condolences to the families, I can't imagine the situation they are in right now.

 

Yeah so I figured it would be best if I didnt read through this. Just scrollin through the pages and seeing the stupidity some of you say makes me angry to the point where id prolly get thrown off of the site with what I did or have to say.

So ill make this short.

Those were 2 very close friends to me. I was there the night it happened, there was no street racing involved. Investigation says 65-80mph which if you know route1, is average speed most people go on that road even tho its a 45 zone. it was a 1 in a million freak thing so just drop it. Its honestly none of your business other than the fact that it is an S2000. I wish I had saw the post earlier but I unfortunately do not go on this website much.

We are having a benefit car meet for them this saturday at 9 PM at;

Neshaminy Mall
Route 1 & Bristol Road
Bensalem, Pennsylvania 19020
(215) 357-6100

 

Yup, curiosity got the better of me, decided to read some of the dumb things you people said...

Experience? ha, we did more driving in our S2000s in one year then most of you do in the time you bought and will sell yours. So dont even talk about that buncha bull shit. Come to my car meet and say some of that shit ill knock you the **** out.

And thanks to the rest of you who give your prayers to their friends and family

 

the car is built to go fast and many of the people who own it, me included, are going to drive it fast. this kind of thing happens because of many many factors, we all don't know exactly what happened this particular instance. (although there have been plenty of explanations given..) anyway accidents will always happen and acting like their age had anything to do with it irritates the crap out of me. I'm 24 and I'm not going to ever claim my age makes me worse OR better than anyone else.

i'll say this. i bought the car knowing full well there was a reasonable chance i'd end up just like these two poor guys, because it IS a small light and fast car.. and when it hits something at speed, you stand a good chance of dying.

i feel for the family and friends and like so many others have said, i hope everyone drives just a little bit slower after reading this.

 

 

WOW! Rip.