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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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Awesome info, thanks guys.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 12:46 AM
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yup for 06+ VSA is a big plus, it has saved me a few times in rainy weather with semi little tread tires, for DBW i dont even notice it but overall it shouldnt be a deal breaker becuase of DBW, best bet is to test it out and see how its feels on your point of view.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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Every DBW car I've driven in manual form seems to rev hang when letting off the throttle. Didn't drive the S2K DBW though so I can't comment on that.

When it comes to throttle, I personally prefer a cable. It just feels different.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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I've never driven any other S besides my '06 but it does stand to reason that DBW is a plus. Probable safty factors cannot be discounted and would guess that even mileage may be an tiny bit better. If you can get an '06 at a reasonable premium over the earlier AP2's ,I believe this is the way to go.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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[QUOTE=NoRegrets78,Feb 9 2010, 12:38 PM] Every DBW car I've driven in manual form seems to rev hang when letting off the throttle.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Feb 9 2010, 02:48 PM
Rev hang was horrible in the Si Civic, but pretty much nonexistent on the S - I think Honda issued a reflash TSB it was so bad. People with Fits also complain about it. Just goes to show how important programming is with DBW.
Agreed, and the 06 Si is one of the cars I drove where it made me crazy! Glad to hear it was fixed.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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ive driven both and own an 04. i found that the dbw wasnt that pronounced but in a car thats the razors edge like the S2k, the little things were noticeable and bothersome.

the other difference is that you can get a boatload of power with a simple reflash of the DBW ap2's where as its not available in the non DBW's.

also i felt like there was a disconnect between my right foot and the engine. it felt like the pedal tension was too...."light" and in comparison to my daily driver it bugged me
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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I have to disagree with "boatload of power".

From Hondata "Tuning Notes.

The 06 S2000 is the first S2000 by Honda to have a programmable ECU. Our observations are that this is a very well tuned car from the factory. There were no peak power gains, but by raising the rev limit will increase the average power available when you shift at the rev limit.

The VTEC transition is much smoother than before. Peak torque may look as if has been reduced slightly, but this is an artifact of the dyno trying to catch the engine accelerating after the VTEC switch point."
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NoRegrets78,Feb 9 2010, 03:49 PM
I have to disagree with "boatload of power".

From Hondata "Tuning Notes.

The 06 S2000 is the first S2000 by Honda to have a programmable ECU. Our observations are that this is a very well tuned car from the factory. There were no peak power gains, but by raising the rev limit will increase the average power available when you shift at the rev limit.

The VTEC transition is much smoother than before. Peak torque may look as if has been reduced slightly, but this is an artifact of the dyno trying to catch the engine accelerating after the VTEC switch point."
gains up to 24tq/hp have been realized in the midrange with the reflash and headers/exhaust.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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The only problem with DBW on S2000 is that too many people are whining about it.
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