Fishtail / Wheelspin on 1-2 Shift
On cold tires, my car will break loose on a 1 -> 2 WOT shifts. Its even worse if its cold tires and cold outside too. Check your rears to make sure they're not bald, check the tire pressure, and let your tires properly warm up and you're probably fine. Oh, and fix your alignment issues.
Removing the Clutch Delay Valve will also make this worse.
Removing the Clutch Delay Valve will also make this worse.
the only time i would lose that much traction to the point where my ass shifts one way is only when my tires are wet (ran over a puddle)
when its cold out and my michellenPs2`s arent warmed up yet.. it breaks loose pretty hard but not to the point where i`d be scared .
when its cold out and my michellenPs2`s arent warmed up yet.. it breaks loose pretty hard but not to the point where i`d be scared .
I think it is purely a tire traction issue. I am new to RWD, so when I switched to my winter tires I of course was screwing around to see the limits. with it about 40 degrees out and the tires warmed up approx 3 miles, I mid throttled my way to vtec in first and then floored it at the vtec point. The rear swiftly stepped out counterclockwise. I instinctly countersteered and moderated the throttle and it came right back in line.
If I take a 90 degree-ish turn at the vtec point in first, even moderate throttle drifts the rear end out, and MORE throttle while counterstearing smoothly lines it all back up at the shift to 2nd.
I am amazed how controllable the car is without ever touching the brakes. Test the limits in a parking lot a bit, and be careful until you realize the rear handling with aggressive throttle inputs over 6K in any condition less then ideal. (including tire pressure, wet roads, cold tires, non summer tires, with a slight turn of the wheel, etc...)
Get her fixed and go practice some more
If I take a 90 degree-ish turn at the vtec point in first, even moderate throttle drifts the rear end out, and MORE throttle while counterstearing smoothly lines it all back up at the shift to 2nd.
I am amazed how controllable the car is without ever touching the brakes. Test the limits in a parking lot a bit, and be careful until you realize the rear handling with aggressive throttle inputs over 6K in any condition less then ideal. (including tire pressure, wet roads, cold tires, non summer tires, with a slight turn of the wheel, etc...)
Get her fixed and go practice some more
Originally Posted by J'sS2K,Apr 26 2008, 02:33 PM
Do you have a supercharger under the hood? I swear, no matter how hard I punch it, the rear end never break loose on a straight away.
Mine did step out quite often if the pavement and tires are cold ... or if the pavement has some gravel on it. Mine was a bone stock car ...
But not an issue after tires are warmed up. My tire pressure was fine, and still had over 60% of treads. And I don't power shift or anything, I just go off the gas, clutch in and shift, and clutch out and gas usual ...
Originally Posted by gomarlins3,Apr 27 2008, 06:17 PM
I have never had this problem when the steering wheel is straight.
...To respond to some comments, no it's not supercharged, it's stock and yes they still break loose, and no the previous owner did not mess with the tires or the CDV, they're the OEM RE050's (4+ years old now...), and how cold does it get where you guys live? For people that this NEVER happens to, well the night this happened, I had just pulled out of my neighborhood, and I'd say the temperature was in the mid 30's. So, I had super cold tires, and the ground was also cold. Additionally, it's possible the road has a very gradual gradient as someone mentioned.
Uodate:
Took the car out to an Auto-X today. First, WOW, this is going to be a fun car to Auto-X (and open track) with. It's got great steering response, reacts well do your inputs. Unfortunately in some areas it did plow, but I think it's because my tire pressures were far too high due to me using a friend's faulty pressure gauge. Second, I had a few runs where I purposely broke the car loose. Most of the time I had it under control, but there was one run where I got the car extremely sideways in the first corner, and spun it later on. It seems that the rear end will snap out pretty easily if you want it to (or if you don't), but as long as you stay calm and steer / throttle out of it, everything seems very controllable... although not second nature, yet.
EDIT - Red MX5, see the first block of text.








