fishtailing
Another option is to find a local SCCA (Sports Car Club of America) chapter in your area. The typically host road course races and classes. I took mine on a road course race just to learn how the car handles. Broke the rear end loose twice on my first run to 180s each time. And a full 360 that scared the hell out of me and the finish line.
Still surprised the tires stayed on the rims during that slide. The course was only agaist the clock and was on a local airfield set up with cones. So, if you loose control, you just hit a couple of cones (i hit my share) instead of another car or barrier. HELL on my tires though...good to do once, but won't do it again untill i can afford a second set of wheels and tires. Also a good way to learn about what different tire pressures can do for you.
Still surprised the tires stayed on the rims during that slide. The course was only agaist the clock and was on a local airfield set up with cones. So, if you loose control, you just hit a couple of cones (i hit my share) instead of another car or barrier. HELL on my tires though...good to do once, but won't do it again untill i can afford a second set of wheels and tires. Also a good way to learn about what different tire pressures can do for you.
Despite some of the messages in this thread, I do not think the end of the world is coming for you nor do you need to run off to driver training immediately. What you experienced is common amongst new rear-wheel drivers especially with a performance car like the S2K. Fact is when I got the car back in February 2000, I had a similar experience. I did the smart thing, like you did, by asking about it on this forum. I was informed of the cold tire issue (the tires would have been cold as my experience occurred shortly after getting in the car) and about the nature of rear-wheel driving. It was amazing that nothing happened to me or the car considering I did just about everything wrong. My instinct was to brake which was absolutely the wrong thing to do. Throttling into the problem would have allowed the tires to catch. I was lucky. However, we are coming up on 3 years of ownership now and I can tell you that this never once happened to me again. I learned from the mistake and the advice on this board and over time I acquired a much better feel for the car and the rear-wheel driving style. I did not have to run off to an expensive training school nor did I have to fool around in a parking lot.
That said, going to a driver school or learning about the car by doing things in the parking lot, is certainly not a bad thing. It's just not required and chances are you just learned what I did 3 years ago and you will continue to enjoy the car for many accident free years to come.
That said, going to a driver school or learning about the car by doing things in the parking lot, is certainly not a bad thing. It's just not required and chances are you just learned what I did 3 years ago and you will continue to enjoy the car for many accident free years to come.
Originally posted by Daveg27
Wait a minute, this is a little unclear to me. Are you saying that the rear tires are breaking loose and spinning and the rear of the car is swinging back and forth? Or are you saying the "fishtailing" is more subtle, like it feels like the tires are about to break loose during the shift and it feels like the car is rotating a bit? If these turns are indeed slight, I can't imagine you're really breaking the tires loose. And if you are, you're driving extremely recklessly on the streets. The only time I've broken the tires loose is during an auto-x, and most of the time it is intentional and in control. The car isn't that hard to drive, like any performance car, smoothness is the key.
Wait a minute, this is a little unclear to me. Are you saying that the rear tires are breaking loose and spinning and the rear of the car is swinging back and forth? Or are you saying the "fishtailing" is more subtle, like it feels like the tires are about to break loose during the shift and it feels like the car is rotating a bit? If these turns are indeed slight, I can't imagine you're really breaking the tires loose. And if you are, you're driving extremely recklessly on the streets. The only time I've broken the tires loose is during an auto-x, and most of the time it is intentional and in control. The car isn't that hard to drive, like any performance car, smoothness is the key.
car that I wouldn't trade for alomst anything.
Originally posted by carik
if you do spin out why not step ont teh brake.? i dont think its safer hitting a wall at a higher speed.
if you do spin out why not step ont teh brake.? i dont think its safer hitting a wall at a higher speed.
Triple-H is correct, except he forgot to say anything about vision. Where you are looking in this situation is as important or even more important than weight transfer. Don't look at what you think you might hit - the wall or tree or whatever. Look ahead, way down the road, past the end of the curve. Your hands will steer you to where you are looking. Look where you want to go - not where you don't.



