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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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[QUOTE=daytontp,Jan 17 2006, 07:53 PM]That is not a dealer number it is the US Honda Customer Support number, and I stated I was not expecting the person to really know.

You should give people more credit.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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[QUOTE=Silver9k,Jan 18 2006, 01:04 AM]you know what...thats not a bad idea...I don't know when the next track day is, but its a while away.

I can buy them, run the 2 morning runs without them...install them...since they look easy enough, and do the 2 afternoon runs with them.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver9k,Jan 17 2006, 10:04 PM
you know what...thats not a bad idea...I don't know when the next track day is, but its a while away.

I can buy them, run the 2 morning runs without them...install them...since they look easy enough, and do the 2 afternoon runs with them. Then maybe that will be worth something...at least it should be worth something to me.
I would also be very interested in hearing the results of a test like this.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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thanks for the help and info everyone. i ordered the items. they cost me around 350 $ including the labor. it cost a lil to much because the bolting places were damaged so i m changing them too.




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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RED MX5,Jan 18 2006, 01:30 AM
Didn't I tell you exactly the same thing the Honda support people told you? (Answer = "yes." )
Yes you did, but to be honest. If I had to pick between a manufacturers press release and some comment I read on a forum website, I would go with the press release. I venture to guess that 9 times out of 10 you would likely do the same. You were correct and this is one of those exception cases.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mucter,Jan 17 2006, 10:37 PM
I would also be very interested in hearing the results of a test like this.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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[QUOTE=daytontp,Jan 18 2006, 08:21 AM]Yes you did, but to be honest.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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I just want to point out what a wonderful forum this is, where we can go from using Insight information to aircraft design concepts to explain the front strakes, which are clearly racoon deflectors in my experience.

As far as track testing, don't forget to consider the gains from weight savings when they are off.

Would leaving one on and one off help in circle track racing...?

Sorry, I am just a little post-happy at the moment.

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wearyeyed,Jan 18 2006, 01:20 PM
I just want to point out what a wonderful forum this is, where we can go from using Insight information to aircraft design concepts to explain the front strakes, which are clearly racoon deflectors in my experience.

As far as track testing, don't forget to consider the gains from weight savings when they are off.

Would leaving one on and one off help in circle track racing...?

Sorry, I am just a little post-happy at the moment.

Weary
yeah, in the top gear episode where they had grandmas doing cookies in a Spa Yellow s2k I'll bet they took them off on one side to help the grandmas spin the car around.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wearyeyed,Jan 18 2006, 01:20 PM
I just want to point out what a wonderful forum this is, where we can go from using Insight information to aircraft design concepts to explain the front strakes, which are clearly racoon deflectors in my experience.

As far as track testing, don't forget to consider the gains from weight savings when they are off.

Would leaving one on and one off help in circle track racing...?

Sorry, I am just a little post-happy at the moment.

Weary
The benefits of those front strakes more then offset any weight penalty created in their existance on our cars.

By design, our cars is equal to a flying brick...that is, it's not a very aerodynamically efficent vehicle. You'll notice that while driving at high-speeds, this car will feel less comfortable then even a sedan. The reason being is that the car's short wheel base, minimum overhang, and open top design is very counter-intuitive to downforce. However, it's great at creating lift & drag.

With those front strakes on, they help divert air away from the wheel wells. If they were off, air could fill the wheel well, causing even more lift underneath the car -- giving it an even more 'floaty' feeling.

That's why a lot of S2000 track cars notice a difference even with a PepBoys rear wing on. I hate to say it, but this is a car that would actually benefit from those ricer wings (at high speeds of course).

Aerodynamics plays a very big role in car design -- in F1 racing, aerodynamics is probably as important as the chassis design itself, if not more so.
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