Grinding Gears
Originally Posted by specialk22tt,Jan 3 2006, 10:41 PM
So let's say you hit redline in 2nd, do you go through every gear (with the clutch in the whole time (obviously)) and then once you get to 6th, let the clutch out?
I'm sure it's best to engage every gear, but wouldn't a redline 2nd bring you to around ~70mph and then engaging 3rd after that would raise the rpms and slow your car down very fast. My whole reason for the 2nd to 6th transition was to redline it and then continue to drive smoothly at that speed. Is engaging every gear the only correct way to do this? Thanks for all the help. This is all news to me because many of my friends skip gears.
[QUOTE=specialk22tt,Jan 3 2006, 10:56 PM] I'm sure it's best to engage every gear, but wouldn't a redline 2nd bring you to around ~70mph and then engaging 3rd after that would raise the rpms and slow your car down very fast.
if your in 6th at 70 your boggin that poor car. dont use 5th till your over 70. who goes 70 anymore anyways.
always shift all the gears. im on my 2nd trans, and if anyone can tell you its me. ive never skipshifted, but i know what goes on in there, and have seen the end result, its not pretty.
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always shift all the gears. im on my 2nd trans, and if anyone can tell you its me. ive never skipshifted, but i know what goes on in there, and have seen the end result, its not pretty.
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If I ever skip shift I do as per xviper's second suggestion and I give the tranny a second or two after shifting out of 2nd or 3rd before going to 6th. You really need to in order to let the countershaft spin down so you don't put excess pressure on the 6th gear synchros when shifting into gear. If you don't do this you will wear down your 6th gear synchros very fast, you may have already done so.
I almost never drive on the freeway so taking it up to redline in 2nd I'm already breaking the speed limit as it is, at least everywhere that I drive... giving it that second to chill out is better for getting me out of trouble.
I almost never drive on the freeway so taking it up to redline in 2nd I'm already breaking the speed limit as it is, at least everywhere that I drive... giving it that second to chill out is better for getting me out of trouble.
Thank for the help guys. I've only grinded 6th twice so far. Do you think it damaged the syncros pretty severe or am I relatively okay if no more damage occurs?
Honda suggested gear shift points:
1st > 2nd: 15 mph
2nd > 3rd: 25 mph
3rd > 4th: 40 mph
4th > 5th: 47 mph
5th > 6th: 52 mph
Why do you say >70 mph for 6th is boggin your car down?
if your in 6th at 70 your boggin that poor car. dont use 5th till your over 70. who goes 70 anymore anyways.
always shift all the gears. im on my 2nd trans, and if anyone can tell you its me. ive never skipshifted, but i know what goes on in there, and have seen the end result, its not pretty. smile.gif lates
always shift all the gears. im on my 2nd trans, and if anyone can tell you its me. ive never skipshifted, but i know what goes on in there, and have seen the end result, its not pretty. smile.gif lates
1st > 2nd: 15 mph
2nd > 3rd: 25 mph
3rd > 4th: 40 mph
4th > 5th: 47 mph
5th > 6th: 52 mph
Why do you say >70 mph for 6th is boggin your car down?
Why let out the clutch fully in every gear? You get the same result by pushing against the synchros in each gear (in sequence) until the transmission is ready to slip into gear, and then INSTEAD of actually engaging the gear, moving on to the next set of synchros. Repeat until you get to the sixth gear synchros, and only then actually engage a gear and let out the clutch. The damage is done by skipping synchros, not by skipping the gears. Better still, just get in the habit of rev matching and double-clutching when needed. Drive a car with straight cut gears and no synchros for a while. 
The important thing (I believe) is to understand what's going on inside the transmission, and learning to work with it. There is not ONE right way to do things, but there are plenty of wrong ways. A 2-6 shift can be done in a number of ways that will not do any more damage than any other shift, but it's also a good way to screw up the synchros if done sloppily.
How do you know if you are blowing shifts? If you get a grind and the synchros are not shot it's a major clue.

The important thing (I believe) is to understand what's going on inside the transmission, and learning to work with it. There is not ONE right way to do things, but there are plenty of wrong ways. A 2-6 shift can be done in a number of ways that will not do any more damage than any other shift, but it's also a good way to screw up the synchros if done sloppily.
How do you know if you are blowing shifts? If you get a grind and the synchros are not shot it's a major clue.



