Hardtop or Roll Bar???
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From: knoxville, TN
Originally posted by owenxguo
I am downhill every week with my friends, and I watched a lot crash vedio last week, little scare right now LOL
thinking to protech my head, but not sure what should I have, a hardtop or roll bar, cause I am not a racer so I dont need a 6 or 7 point bar, 4 or 5 should be enough.
but the only reason I am like the hardtop is it will give more security, our car is tooooooooooooo easy to be stolen.......and I dont have full cover insurance
, that's why I am thinking to get a hardtop.
what's your opinion?
I am downhill every week with my friends, and I watched a lot crash vedio last week, little scare right now LOL
thinking to protech my head, but not sure what should I have, a hardtop or roll bar, cause I am not a racer so I dont need a 6 or 7 point bar, 4 or 5 should be enough.
but the only reason I am like the hardtop is it will give more security, our car is tooooooooooooo easy to be stolen.......and I dont have full cover insurance
, that's why I am thinking to get a hardtop.what's your opinion?
Unless you are really tall, the stock roll bars work very well, given the speeds you are likely to crash at. you shouldn't have to worry about the HT being stolen.... its not that heavy but cumbersome.
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IMO opinion if they want to steal it or even break in, they will regardless of the HT. HT probably just means that if they only intend to steal parts then you'll have to replace the side window instead of the vinyl roof.
Actually now that I'm thinking about it, how hard is it to pop the rear window in on a ht?
Actually now that I'm thinking about it, how hard is it to pop the rear window in on a ht?
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From: London
Originally posted by twohoos
The hardtop is NOT structural and CANNOT be considered rollover protection. If you want to protect your head get proper safety equipment.
The hardtop is NOT structural and CANNOT be considered rollover protection. If you want to protect your head get proper safety equipment.
A hard top will do very little to protect you in a roll over, it's just a piece of aluminium.The best protection you can have is safe driving.
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From: Chicagoland
Originally Posted by tenblade2001,Jun 8 2004, 08:58 PM
hardtop.
Unless you are really tall, the stock roll bars work very well, given the speeds you are likely to crash at.
Unless you are really tall, the stock roll bars work very well, given the speeds you are likely to crash at.
Can I ask how you know the stock roll hoops work very well? Is it from reading, tests, or experience
? I am 5'10" and as I recall when I test drove the S2K, my head was higher than the roll hoops. If somehow in the unlikely event of a roll over, (1) How is my head not going to hit the ground before the roll hoops? I read something about the upper body sliding with the stock seat belts but can someone describe the physics of how that works? I just don't get it.(2) Looking at it another way, if the car rolled over and landed upside down, wouldn't it rest on the windshield frame and the hoops and anything taller than a line stretching between the two get crushed? I'm sure those clever Honda engineers thought of all this, but I just don't get it.
(3) You mentioned speed you are likely to crash at...why does that matter?
Thanks in advance for helping out a covertible noob
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From: NY
Originally Posted by youngjun91,Aug 27 2004, 01:57 AM
3 questions...
Can I ask how you know the stock roll hoops work very well? Is it from reading, tests, or experience? I am 5'10" and as I recall when I test drove the S2K, my head was higher than the roll hoops. If somehow in the unlikely event of a roll over, (1) How is my head not going to hit the ground before the roll hoops? I read something about the upper body sliding with the stock seat belts but can someone describe the physics of how that works? I just don't get it.
(2) Looking at it another way, if the car rolled over and landed upside down, wouldn't it rest on the windshield frame and the hoops and anything taller than a line stretching between the two get crushed? I'm sure those clever Honda engineers thought of all this, but I just don't get it.
(3) You mentioned speed you are likely to crash at...why does that matter?
Thanks in advance for helping out a covertible noob
Can I ask how you know the stock roll hoops work very well? Is it from reading, tests, or experience
? I am 5'10" and as I recall when I test drove the S2K, my head was higher than the roll hoops. If somehow in the unlikely event of a roll over, (1) How is my head not going to hit the ground before the roll hoops? I read something about the upper body sliding with the stock seat belts but can someone describe the physics of how that works? I just don't get it.(2) Looking at it another way, if the car rolled over and landed upside down, wouldn't it rest on the windshield frame and the hoops and anything taller than a line stretching between the two get crushed? I'm sure those clever Honda engineers thought of all this, but I just don't get it.
(3) You mentioned speed you are likely to crash at...why does that matter?
Thanks in advance for helping out a covertible noob
2. While not all crashes are alike, if you rolled this car on a flat surface it would end up on the windshield and the nose of the car with the roll hoops (and driver) suspended in the air. (There are pics & a thread on this site of this scenario)
3. The faster the crash = more force involved = possibility of windshield collapse.
IMO the only protection the hardtop offers is if you roll & slide on some uneven surface where the roll hoops would come into play the hardtop would do the sliding and not your head.
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From: NY
Originally Posted by Austblue,Jun 9 2004, 05:52 AM
IMO opinion if they want to steal it or even break in, they will regardless of the HT. HT probably just means that if they only intend to steal parts then you'll have to replace the side window instead of the vinyl roof.
Actually now that I'm thinking about it, how hard is it to pop the rear window in on a ht?
Actually now that I'm thinking about it, how hard is it to pop the rear window in on a ht?