Have anyone test drive the 06 S2K yet?
I heard some news that the 06 models have drive-by-wire throttle. And it is bad because you cant feel the engine anymore. But that maybe because of the history of the Drive-by-wire, now these day maybe it would be different, probably they have a better management system for it. Plus the 06 Si also come with the Drive-by-Wire. I would like to know if anyone has experience with that feature and see if it any different or it truly bad as everyone said it is.
you know what,the more Im reading about DBW systems the more I'm not liking it..Year by year automobile companys are slowly taking away the driver's need for skills..(like in F1,its basically all car now,driver has become easily replaceable)..also something about the pedal and throttle being run by computer (and incorporated with Cruise control) I do not like.Technologically its of course smart,but damnn save that for suv's and minivans.This is a driver's roadster.a damn roadster.You need that feeling of what your in control over.The less obstacles your foot goes thru to get to that wonderful engine the better.That's what old school sports/muscle cars were built on (TIL today!.).
Ahhh, i dunno.the US is just enforcing more and more rules/standards to have the cars be safe as possible on the road.Taking not only the joy away but opening door to letting just any dumb 'Joe' get in that car and get driven around BY it like everyone else practically.
At least I get a smile out of Japan and how they just stick to what has been right and what is still right.(ie:F20c)..They live by the motto of "if it aint broke then dont fix it".Its too bad US just tries leveling the playing fields in every damn thing.ok sorry just needed to vent whats been eatin away at me inside for a while now.
(god bless my 03 damnit..last of the mohicans.lol)
Ahhh, i dunno.the US is just enforcing more and more rules/standards to have the cars be safe as possible on the road.Taking not only the joy away but opening door to letting just any dumb 'Joe' get in that car and get driven around BY it like everyone else practically.
At least I get a smile out of Japan and how they just stick to what has been right and what is still right.(ie:F20c)..They live by the motto of "if it aint broke then dont fix it".Its too bad US just tries leveling the playing fields in every damn thing.ok sorry just needed to vent whats been eatin away at me inside for a while now.
(god bless my 03 damnit..last of the mohicans.lol)
Originally Posted by Nice-Face,Oct 29 2005, 12:38 AM
...like in F1,its basically all car now,driver has become easily replaceable...
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I think until we hear or (better yet) actually drive ourselves....these "innovations" as they come, we shouldn't spend a lot of time worrying.
Remember ABS? 4 Wheel steer? Traction/Stability/Yaw Management/Control? New ideas like these and more have been popping up for years...they either get improved or refined to where they AID driver control or sensitivity or "feel"... or they get fazed out. Good stays bad goes. ('Cept ABS on off-road vehicles...grrrrr.)
I'm not worried. 'Course I don't have the money to be an early adopter. Couldn't afford an '06 if I wanted one. LOL.
ken.i only mentioned F1 because teams that several years ago were completely happy with their drivers and had no thoughts of ever getting rid of the,soon after let the backup drivers step up (and for much less money).Their tech. is alot more of a jump than regular cars like were talking obviously.
anyway,I just think the improvements you mentioned are not along the lines of what their currently popping up with (and ones ready to come out with soon also,,ie:floating steering,etc..).ahhh,anyway.im sure this will become a hot topic.later
anyway,I just think the improvements you mentioned are not along the lines of what their currently popping up with (and ones ready to come out with soon also,,ie:floating steering,etc..).ahhh,anyway.im sure this will become a hot topic.later
Originally Posted by kendrick,Oct 29 2005, 02:56 AM
I think until we hear or (better yet) actually drive ourselves....these "innovations" as they come, we shouldn't spend a lot of time worrying.
Remember ABS? 4 Wheel steer? Traction/Stability/Yaw Management/Control?
Remember ABS? 4 Wheel steer? Traction/Stability/Yaw Management/Control?
Some are spending way to much time worrying about DBW on this car. Yeah, there have been a vocal few that just couldn't stand it on whatever car they drove that had it. I'd bet that for the vast majority of us, we won't even know it's there.
It's still early yet. Let's give the car time to be on the road for a while and see how it turns out. Almost all of the nay sayers already own an older model without this feature so what does it matter to them?

Drive Safe,
Steve R.
It won't be bad. I think it will be good actually...how could you say no to greater throttle response?? DBW also has nothing to do with Cruise control. DBW can make cruise control lighter because you don't have a mechanical linkage to it, it's operated by computer. Really the only thing I DON'T like about the 2006 is the New Wheel Design!
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Originally Posted by Nice-Face,Oct 29 2005, 04:38 AM
At least I get a smile out of Japan and how they just stick to what has been right and what is still right.(ie:F20c)..They live by the motto of "if it aint broke then dont fix it".Its too bad US just tries leveling the playing fields in every damn thing.ok sorry just needed to vent whats been eatin away at me inside for a while now.
(god bless my 03 damnit..last of the mohicans.lol)
(god bless my 03 damnit..last of the mohicans.lol)
... omg, maybe the F22C isn't as bad as everyone thinks.By the way, the NSX has had Drive By wire since 1995. I've never heard an NSX owner complaining about throttle response.
Honda put it in their $80k Supercar, maybe it isn't so bad? I don't have any first hand experiences but don't shoot it down before you try it.
If you want raw, maybe you should go out and buy a Honda S600, 10k RPM IIRC.
If Japan really did stick to the if it ain't broke don't fix it attitude, we'd still be driving the 70hp S600 too.
Your 2003 isn't exactly "raw" and lacking in technology with ABS, airbags, HIDs, the X-Frame ... I could go on and on. The S2000 is a technologically advanced car, its not a bucket of nuts and bolts tied to a basic gasoline motor.
I'm not saying DBW is gonna be great ... but try it before you knock it.
The DBW is a possible flaw although Honda is a smart company and I expect that it wont be too noticable on the S2k.
A good example of delayed DBW is the TL. You feel a distinct detatchment from the throttle and engine response. You adapt quickly to the change but it's not a feeling I enjoy.
I don't expect the DBW on the s2000 to be like the TL but we need some first hand reports to really know.
A good example of delayed DBW is the TL. You feel a distinct detatchment from the throttle and engine response. You adapt quickly to the change but it's not a feeling I enjoy.
I don't expect the DBW on the s2000 to be like the TL but we need some first hand reports to really know.





